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K5 Leopold 1:160
« on: March 28, 2021, 01:29:56 PM »
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Anyone remember the K5 Leopold German rail gun. It was produce some years ago. I seen them at MB Kliens. Had one in my hand and put it back. Wish I just purchased it then. It was N, 1:160 and not the 1:144 that pops up every time I look for one.
    Anyone remember who made this ?

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2021, 01:31:31 PM »
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Photo flipped around on me again, not sure why it does that.

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 01:44:43 PM »
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Back in 2011 I bought a Hobbytrain Leopold rail gun.  Part# H23601.  $117. It is mostly diecast metal, and has fairly crude details (like very thick handrails).  But is is a unique piece of rolling stock.  I bought it from https://www.tee-usa.com/ . Looks like Reynaulds still has a different version listed, but probably out of stock (they don't have real-rime inventory).

https://www.reynaulds.com/products/Kato%20HobbyTrain%20Lemke/H23603.aspx

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2021, 04:54:39 PM »
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Might this be the one you're thinking of?

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Hobbytrain H23600 1:160 N Scale K5 Leopold in Summer Camouflage Paint Scheme

Go here (https://trainsnscale.com/blog/the-krupp-k5-e-world-war-ii-german-railway-artillery-gun/) and page down a little past halfway.
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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2021, 05:52:36 PM »
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Yep that's the one. Thanks guys..

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 12:38:07 AM »
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Did the 1:1 thing ever work?  Hard to believe that the recoil would not blow the RR car of the tracks.

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2021, 01:01:40 AM »
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Did the 1:1 thing ever work?  Hard to believe that the recoil would not blow the RR car of the tracks.

eja

As designed yes, the sheer weight of the gun and chassis absorbs a good amount which is helped along by the fact that the whole assembly can move a bit when firing. And guns this big had to be rail borne because you'd need a laughably big tank like vehicle otherwise. See Karl Mortars as an example.\

As useful weapons... no not really. Mobility is of course limited to areas that you have rails, The guns have no Azimuth traverse so you either need to find/build a curve that happens to arc in the direction of the enemy within bombardment range or build a special turntable. And once the enemy knows that you have this big expensive gun that can only used in very specific locations it isn't that hard to just keep air striking the location until you get a hit.

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2021, 08:50:54 AM »
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The Baldwin Locomotive works built a number of 14-inch railway guns for the US Navy during WWI.  They built them, outfitted entire trains to support the train/track and gun crews to be self-supporting with sleeping and eating quarters in about three months.  They were shipped over and put to use right away.

Here is some footage of the guns being put together and during crew training:


A very interesting overview of them being set up and used in France, including footage of locomotives spotting the guns.


A surviving gun is at the museum at the Washington Naval Shipyard in Washington DC.  There are less than a dozen or so railway guns survivors worldwide.  The US Army captured one or more of the German guns in Italy (where the Germans "hid" the guns in tunnels between shots), putting one together and brought to the US for testing.  This gun was moved (by rail) a few years ago from Maryland to Virginia when the Army shutdown the museum at Aberdeen. 

Pre-WWII, the Army (?) operated a number of large guns as coastal defense along the West Coast. I understand they maintained a number of spurs along the Southern Pacific where the RR would move the guns to where they would be needed.

In the book Band of Brothers, the author described the unit followed in the book coming under fire from one of the German guns.  They considered the guns to be more of an annoyance then anything because you could hear the shell coming with enough time to seek cover. 

Certainly a US prototype would be very nice!

Bob

 

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2021, 12:45:52 PM »
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I can't hold back any longer.  Whenever I hear the name "Leopold" I immediately think of the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon.

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2021, 01:17:44 PM »
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I can't hold back any longer.  Whenever I hear the name "Leopold" I immediately think of the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon.

One of my very favorites!  "Leopold!"
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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2021, 01:24:25 PM »
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I can't hold back any longer.  Whenever I hear the name "Leopold" I immediately think of the classic Bugs Bunny cartoon.

Same here.  :D


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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2021, 05:13:42 PM »
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This is the description at the manufacturer's website:   
https://www.lemkecollection.de/de/Uebersicht/Spur-N/Eisenbahngeschuetz-K5-DRG-Ep.II-Metallmodell-feldgrau

It says the model is currently out of stock.

Sorry, couldn't find an English version of their website.  But Google translator should work  :D
Christoph

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2021, 05:32:00 PM »
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Bugs is king and there is no other. Transformers, give me a break.  Back to K5. Thanks for the info guys.

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Re: K5 Leopold 1:160
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2021, 05:40:57 PM »
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Got one on order.