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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2021, 07:06:00 PM »
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I’m sure you’ve seen Chris’s post on the N.P. Modelers list @hegstad1

That's what got me all "hopped" up!
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2021, 07:07:46 PM »
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There.  That was a fun little afternoon project.  I still want to do the steel car.

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2021, 09:03:17 PM »
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I'm thinking that Tru-Color MBTA purple with some white mixed in would be a good color match for the wine car.
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2021, 10:04:40 AM »
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At the last virtual RPM (Hindsight 20/20 7.0) Tony Thompson had a great presentation on wine cars.  Some takeaways from what I remember:

1) Wine from CA was sent to distribution sites around North America (He shared a photo of an entire yard filled with wine tank cars in CA)
2) The color of the Chateau Martin cars were the color of red wine.  The faded pinky purple is just that, faded, and cars should be a deep color.
3) Wine tank cars are interesting too, not the express reefer style, but actual multi-dome tank cars carrying wine.  They need to make it to our layouts as well.

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2014/08/wine-tank-cars.html
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2021, 02:21:55 PM »
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According to a review I came across, HO modelers did get the car, but some (at least the reviewer) were not happy with the color.

One of the HO cars is owned by someone in my club— I can confirm that the model was bright purple, not a wine color.

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2021, 04:10:46 PM »
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At the last virtual RPM (Hindsight 20/20 7.0) Tony Thompson had a great presentation on wine cars.  Some takeaways from what I remember:

1) Wine from CA was sent to distribution sites around North America (He shared a photo of an entire yard filled with wine tank cars in CA)
2) The color of the Chateau Martin cars were the color of red wine.  The faded pinky purple is just that, faded, and cars should be a deep color.
3) Wine tank cars are interesting too, not the express reefer style, but actual multi-dome tank cars carrying wine.  They need to make it to our layouts as well.

http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2014/08/wine-tank-cars.html

I am patiently waiting for a clever 3D modeler to make an assortment of different domes, tank ends and underframes. I have hundreds of N scale tank cars but they are primarily of four types. Of course I have large group of Intermountain 8000 gallon type 27 cars, I have a small amount of Atlas 11,000 gallon ACF cars, I have nearly all of the three dome cars produced my Micro Trains and some kitbash Bachmann 10,000 gallon tanks both single dome and three dome.
I may have some mental problems because I avoid the Micro trains single dome cars, to me they just don't look right.

I think I can supply the cylinders but it would be helpful to have a selection of domes and tank ends. I also want different tank cars. I'd love to have UTLX high walkway cars and a few six dome cars for wine service.


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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2021, 08:07:01 PM »
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2) The color of the Chateau Martin cars were the color of red wine.  The faded pinky purple is just that, faded, and cars should be a deep color.


Sure, but since they faded quickly, most of their life they wore that pinky purple color.  So it is really up to the modeler how to depict them. New out of the paint shop, or few years old, and in service.  I kind of like that pinky purple, but it might be because that is how most are modeled.
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2021, 12:07:55 AM »
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Sure, but since they faded quickly, most of their life they wore that pinky purple color.  So it is really up to the modeler how to depict them. New out of the paint shop, or few years old, and in service.  I kind of like that pinky purple, but it might be because that is how most are modeled.

Just passing along the original color description as presented.

As a CGW fan, I agree with your assessment of period maroon paints fading fast to purple.

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2021, 03:48:44 PM »
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I had these reserved with IM...BLW was still showing them listed as being pre-ordered until 2019 when they finally cancelled the orders. I still haven't gotten over the disappointment with IM about not releasing them. I knew that a few of the other roads were done, but I haven't been able to find any (but I also haven't looked very hard). I don't even care about the color because of the fading. As pointed out, MDC had a 50' wood version. I thought for SURE that MT would do the 40' boxcar version for their Grape to Glass wine series of cars, but they instead did a silver single dome tank car instead (why did you do that, MT?). For years I have researched wine tank cars since I model the NWP and more than a few wine bottles came from that road.

6 dome tank cars: search Shapeways. I believe the creator is a Railwire member. Nice cars, but hard to paint in the two toned black underbelly/silver top and not the easiest to add weight to. Also decals are very rare. I have several and have even designed decals for them, but haven't been able to figure out an easy way to paint the car yet.

Chateau Martin decals/transfers: Cloverhouse makes a set for one of the cars:



I think that in the past they made several sets but now only list this one. I'll need to dig through my CH and make sure.
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2021, 04:02:50 PM »
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I had these reserved with IM...BLW was still showing them listed as being pre-ordered until 2019 when they finally cancelled the orders. I still haven't gotten over the disappointment with IM about not releasing them. I knew that a few of the other roads were done, but I haven't been able to find any (but I also haven't looked very hard). I don't even care about the color because of the fading. As pointed out, MDC had a 50' wood version. I thought for SURE that MT would do the 40' boxcar version for their Grape to Glass wine series of cars, but they instead did a silver single dome tank car instead (why did you do that, MT?). For years I have researched wine tank cars since I model the NWP and more than a few wine bottles came from that road.

6 dome tank cars: search Shapeways. I believe the creator is a Railwire member. Nice cars, but hard to paint in the two toned black underbelly/silver top and not the easiest to add weight to. Also decals are very rare. I have several and have even designed decals for them, but haven't been able to figure out an easy way to paint the car yet.

Chateau Martin decals/transfers: Cloverhouse makes a set for one of the cars:



I think that in the past they made several sets but now only list this one. I'll need to dig through my CH and make sure.

I had several of those six dome cars also. I busted every one of them trying to get the surface smooth enough to paint. I still have one that I was going to try transplanting the domes and tank ends onto a hollow round plastic or brass tube. Then its off to find a nice sturdy underframe.

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2021, 04:26:06 PM »
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Suddenly, I need at least one of these cars so I can paint it for CM...
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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2021, 01:06:11 PM »
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Got ahold of some Intermountain cars (Thanks Bryan) and finished this up today. 

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2021, 02:12:13 PM »
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Awesome!

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2021, 03:51:46 PM »
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Got ahold of some Intermountain cars (Thanks Bryan) and finished this up today. 

Cool.  8) Is there a reason that the dimensional data is "patched" or is that from a proto photo (had to ask!)

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Re: Intermountain GPEX Milk Car.
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2021, 04:56:32 PM »
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Cool.  8) Is there a reason that the dimensional data is "patched" or is that from a proto photo (had to ask!)

Mark

The paint shop decided it needed to be that way.  It's actually a bit of a story but the prototypes had various other patches and they look cool.
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