ESU Announces V5 73199 Kato "K1" style, and new Nano Sound Decoders

[EL3632]

Announced in the Trainworld Virtual Train show today, starts at 55:49:

[RBrodzinsky]

Hmmm, so no 73100 (early Atlas) replacement, just a 73199 replacement.  But the can't wait to see the Nano LokSound and the Kato.   

[GM50 4164]

Yeah kinda bummed they didn't announce a replacement for the 73100. Maybe time will tell.

[reinhardtjh]

Hmmm, so no 73100 (early Atlas) replacement, just a 73199 replacement.  But the can't wait to see the Nano LokSound and the Kato.

Yeah kinda bummed they didn't announce a replacement for the 73100. Maybe time will tell.

Unfortunately, this was pretty much alluded to by Kelley in the other thread a few weeks ago.

From my understanding....

73199 will have a similar V5 counterpart eventually I believe.

73100 was designed to fit an engine that AFFA then changed the design of the mechanism on.  Those actually never ended up in anything besides aftermarket installs (and what I did for Kato..I machined the ES44's they offered with Loksound to take those.  I actually got the last of those from ESU).  There will be no replacement of this exact design in the V5 family.

Now wink wink nudge nudge for something that is coming in the next month or so that I've had quite a bit of input on.  :*

Anywhoo...Happy New Years everyone.  I'm crawling back into my cave to continue installing V5 micros in lots of SDP40F's as the spice must flow....

Enjoy!

Kelley.
www.dufordmodelworks.com 

Soon.

[EL3632]

Hmmm, so no 73100 (early Atlas) replacement, just a 73199 replacement.  But the can't wait to see the Nano LokSound and the Kato.

Changed the title to reflect this. Unfortunate, was looking forward to the 73100.

[tehachapifan]

I'm in for quite a few of the Kato boards. I would like to have seen a 73100 replacement as well, as I have a few more older Atlas-type framed locos to do, but the Kato one will be very welcomed. Also interested in the micro version of the no-motor V5 sound decoder also announced here.

[daniel_leavitt2000]

Are the 73100 EOLed then? Will there be any more production?

[reinhardtjh]

Some screen shots of the upcoming decoders.

ESU LokSound E24 (assumed 73199 replacement)

• Direct replacement/upgrade to Select Direct Micro 73199
• In production. Units shipped to Mfg for OEM install. Retail units on their way to ESU LLC USA
• Light outputs on each end capable of alternating ditch lights on front and back
• ESU Powerpack and Keep alive contacts available
• 8 Function outputs available on board

ESU LokSound Kato

• Designed to fit Kato SD70Ace, GEVO, SD40-2, "many others",
• LED output pads to match many existing light tubes
• ESU Powerpack and Keep alive contacts available
• Not in production yet.  Due date not mentioned

LokSound Nano

• Narrow Format and lower profile
• Designed to connect to new version of the LokSound 5 Direct the has an integrated Power Pack
• New format connector - Not Next18 or MTC21  Smaller, thinner
• 10 Function outputs with standard functions
• Retail due date not mentioned

LokSound FX

• Full LokSound programability
• Library of pre made sounds available
• Can used as a stationary sound source
• Micro Versions being considered
• Estimated width 15.5mm (due to MTC21 connector)
• Apparently in or near production. Retail due date not mentioned.

[reinhardtjh]

Are the 73100 EOLed then? Will there be any more production?

Yes.  Nothing is available from ESU.  Only what's in dealer stock currently.  Streamlined Backshops and Yankee Dabbler are out as are most common sources.

All detailed here: Loksound Select Direct Micro 73100 availability?

[tehachapifan]

Yes.  Nothing is available from ESU.  Only what's in dealer stock currently.  Streamlined Backshops and Yankee Dabbler are out as are most common sources.

All detailed here: Loksound Select Direct Micro 73100 availability?

Yankee Dabbler lists the 73100 and 73199 as "pre-order". I'm guessing they may not know those boards are, from everything I've seen, discontinued. They seem to be OOS everywhere else I've looked.

[nightmare0331]

Most applications that I used the 73100 for will end up working with the new ESU Kato board.  This new board design *should* also fit into another half dozen engines the 73100 and 73199's don't really work in.

When I have samples, I'll release a detailed list of confirmed units it will fit in along with any modifications necessary.

I'm going to be a busy fool when those are actually finished with production at ESU.  I have around 1000 on order. 

Enjoy!

Kelley.
www.dufordmodelworks.com

[reinhardtjh]

Most applications that I used the 73100 for will end up working with the new ESU Kato board.  This new board design *should* also fit into another half dozen engines the 73100 and 73199's don't really work in.

When I have samples, I'll release a detailed list of confirmed units it will fit in along with any modifications necessary.

I'm going to be a busy fool when those are actually finished with production at ESU.  I have around 1000 on order. 

Enjoy!

Kelley.
www.dufordmodelworks.com

Thanks Kelley ( @nightmare0331 ). That's really good to hear. I was hoping it was so.  Do you know/been told/allowed to say when production is happening or scheduled?

[RBrodzinsky]

Yeah - thanks Kelley.  Was going to ask you what you knew, and sort of expected the Kato board would be useful elsewhere (since the 73100 worked in some Katos, with mod)

I am actually much more excited about the new Nano board (and really want to see dimensions and details).  This could be a game changer, if done correctly

[tehachapifan]

Yeah - thanks Kelley.  Was going to ask you what you knew, and sort of expected the Kato board would be useful elsewhere (since the 73100 worked in some Katos, with mod)

I am actually much more excited about the new Nano board (and really want to see dimensions and details).  This could be a game changer, if done correctly

I'm interested in the Nano as well, although I'm a bit confused as to what they mean by it's "designed to connect to new version of the LokSound 5 Direct the has an integrated Power Pack". It's designed to connect to another sound decoder? Huh?  Is this the no-motor one they mentioned in the video? May have to go back to watch again.

[RBrodzinsky]

I'm interested in the Nano as well, although I'm a bit confused as to what they mean by it's "designed to connect to new version of the LokSound 5 Direct the has an integrated Power Pack". It's designed to connect to another sound decoder? Huh?  Is this the no-motor one they mentioned in the video? May have to go back to watch again.

The "direct" is like a "Decoder Buddy" for the HO world (or the new WVD board for certain Kato locos).  There was a similar board in the V4 world, where a Micro plugged into the board which fit into HO locos.  Sounds like they figured out how to add the Power Pack  to the Direct board once they reduced the decoder from Micro to Nano