Derailment - Santa Fe Junction KC caught on camera

[mu26aeh]

The comments on the live stream were golden.  So many professionals and derailment experts.

[John]

The comments on the live stream were golden.  So many professionals and derailment experts.

There are a lot of interesting people out on the interwebs .. many of them are railfans 

[learmoia]

Hmmm, not impossible, but not as likely as a broken wheel or rail. Prototype wheels are pretty forgiving at switch points relative to our models.

Here's why I say this: If the points were gapped more than  0.249", given a properly adjusted switch per CFR 236, then the signal would never have cleared for the move. That's one of the many checks a signal system makes before clearing a signal a dispatcher has requested.

[Thread drift]
How in the heck do you have -3 respect?... I looked through your 25 posts, and I don't see anything excessively rude or offensive..
[/Thread drift]

Anyways... I had the Picked the Switch theory as well... Until...

I looked at the video and looked at the areal shot on Google..

Near Track (Bridge track closest to camera.
Far Track (Bridge Track furthest from the camera)

Ground Track 1 (closest to the camera.. curved track).
Ground Track 2 (next closest to the camera goes under the bridge.
Ground Track 3 (next to Track 2)..

Looking at the crossover in relation to the video.. the Crossover goes from the Far Track to the Near Track on the bridge..... Crossover is directly over the 2nd and 3rd track on the ground (from the camera) The switch points on the far track are right by the tower, and points on the near track are maybe 1 car length past the 3rd track on the ground.

The train came into view on the near bridge track (I think), so would trailing point through the crossover switch.

Noise started roughly over the 2nd ground track (Far Track over the switch, but Near Track before the switch)..

If I'm correct that the train came in on the near track, then the derailment was not related to the switch (.. They started bouncing around more when they got to the switch..

I watched for a bit yesterday it was like watching paint dry.. (as expected).. I didn't tune in until they had the racks down.. locos were still there, but I blinked (went to grab a snack) and they were gone.. so missed that too.

Hopefully VR does a Cleanup video... Should be able to edit 2 days of video down to about 20-30 minutes..

~Ian

[peteski]

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How in the heck do you have -3 respect?... I looked through your 25 posts, and I don't see anything excessively rude or offensive..
[/Thread drift]

LOL, I  noticed that too, but chose to keep it to myself until someone else brought it up.  Weird, eh?  I also looked through all of his post, and all seemed to have zero ratings.

[davefoxx]

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How in the heck do you have -3 respect?... I looked through your 25 posts, and I don't see anything excessively rude or offensive..
[/Thread drift]

Fixed.   

[signalmaintainer]

UP says the cause is "still under investigation."

Translation: They know "the what;" they're just trying to figure out who to investigate!

[signalmaintainer]

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How in the heck do you have -3 respect?... I looked through your 25 posts, and I don't see anything excessively rude or offensive..
[/Thread drift]

Whew! That means I'm dialed in just right, because I'm aiming for slightly rude and offensive!

[central.vermont]

The train came into view on the near bridge track (I think), so would trailing point through the crossover switch.

Noise started roughly over the 2nd ground track (Far Track over the switch, but Near Track before the switch)..

If I'm correct that the train came in on the near track, then the derailment was not related to the switch (.. They started bouncing around more when they got to the switch..
~Ian

Yeah I'll go along with that. I was thinking that they were on the far track.

But after viewing it a couple more times I see I was wrong.

Jon

[DKS]

Fixed.   

Fixed how? I see no change...

[learmoia]

-3 + 4 on his first post +1 on his followup = +2

[Maletrain]

-3 + 4 on his first post +1 on his followup = +2

Is this down voting thing going to get nasty again? 

If I remember correctly, I tried to down-vote the post that said it was being reimplemented, but that wasn't possible. 

[peteski]

Is this down voting thing going to get nasty again? 

I hope not. The mystery here was that he only made 25 posts, so they could be all easily checked, and none seemed to have any votes (all were zero), yet, his respect rating showed -3.

[Chris333]

The upvote fairy wasn't fast enough 

[ednadolski]

The mystery here was that he only made 25 posts, so they could be all easily checked, and none seemed to have any votes (all were zero), yet, his respect rating showed -3.

Integer overflow?

Ed

[learmoia]

I didnt dig around to find the negative posts.. I just checked a couple,  I thought may be negative.. and they were 0... It was the first time I have seen negative respect, so I clicked expecting to find a (no pun intended) train wreck of posts..

Like finding an ebay seller with sub 99% rating.

Whew! That means I'm dialed in just right, because I'm aiming for slightly rude and offensive!

  Your in the right place..