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CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« on: May 16, 2020, 03:54:34 PM »
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So I submit for approval what the car looks like with 3" ribs and 9" spacing between.



It looks pretty good but I'd like to hear what people think.  One of the CGW cars had the ribs past the doors, the other didn't.

As I said in the other thread, I'll also be doing a few other item so you can model the vestibules open.  A have one picture of the inside door I would love to see any others.


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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2020, 07:36:42 PM »
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I have three cars waiting.

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2020, 08:00:42 PM »
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Just the thing! Are there decals for this coach?
Thanks
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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2020, 08:31:34 PM »
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Micro Scale makes a decent Milwaukee passenger set for the 1938 + stuff # 60-1004.
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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 07:56:42 AM »
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Thanks for the info regarding MLW decals but I should have said CGW.

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2020, 09:48:31 AM »
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So I submit for approval what the car looks like with 3" ribs and 9" spacing between.



It looks pretty good but I'd like to hear what people think.  One of the CGW cars had the ribs past the doors, the other didn't.

As I said in the other thread, I'll also be doing a few other item so you can model the vestibules open.  A have one picture of the inside door I would love to see any others.


Jason

@wcfn100 Jason are you going for a triple layer etch or half-etch?  The doors are at the same etch level as the rest of the side. so the door will just be smooth with no edge at the door, at least the way the current image shows.  Are you etching separate doors?

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2020, 11:43:03 AM »
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The spacing looks good. Any ideas or plans for extending the sides lower?
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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2020, 12:01:40 PM »
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The spacing looks good. Any ideas or plans for extending the sides lower?

I don't think I'm going to add that as part of any etching.  Personally I go back and forth on whether to do it or not.  On the model, the curvature of the sill starts at the bottom of the door. You would basically have to remove all the way up to the bottom rib. to get a good flat seem with the extension.

But regardless of that, I feel like that's a job that can be accomplished with styrene since it can be a pretty thick piece (.02-.03") and it can be sanded to finish the bottom edge.

But if you have any thoughts on it, I would like to hear them.

Jason

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2020, 12:29:21 PM »
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@wcfn100 Jason are you going for a triple layer etch or half-etch?  The doors are at the same etch level as the rest of the side. so the door will just be smooth with no edge at the door, at least the way the current image shows.  Are you etching separate doors?

The only etched pieces in that image are the three ribs.  I just put that over a drawing of the FVM coach to show what the size and spacing would be if I etched them pre-spaced on the sheet or included a jig.

I'm working on the rest of the pieces today and can hopefully show everything later.

Jason

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2020, 12:32:23 PM »
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I don't think I'm going to add that as part of any etching.  Personally I go back and forth on whether to do it or not.  On the model, the curvature of the sill starts at the bottom of the door. You would basically have to remove all the way up to the bottom rib. to get a good flat seem with the extension.

But regardless of that, I feel like that's a job that can be accomplished with styrene since it can be a pretty thick piece (.02-.03") and it can be sanded to finish the bottom edge.

But if you have any thoughts on it, I would like to hear them.

Jason

Well that was my thought as well but I didn't know if you had other ideas or not.
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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2020, 12:38:20 PM »
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So right now I'm planning on only etching the rounded window doors like what's on the model.  However there seems to be this other door.



I haven't been able to figure out the pattern to which of the CGW 200-201 doors where this style, but I do know at least one of them had it.  I'm guessing this is just a dutch style door where you can open the top.

Is there some Milwaukee Road knowledge regarding these?

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2020, 01:10:45 PM »
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I'm not seeing a Dutch door. I see a raised trap over the steps but to my best knowledge there were not Dutch doors on the 1935 cars.

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2020, 01:26:46 PM »
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I'm not seeing a Dutch door. I see a raised trap over the steps but to my best knowledge there were not Dutch doors on the 1935 cars.

It does look like it's just a solid door.  My 'guess' is more based on this picture.



Maybe it was modified or maybe we just can't make out the separation on the MILW picture.  Maybe even in the CGW photo, it's not a separation, just some weird seam.

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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2020, 01:46:28 PM »
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I'm not seeing a Dutch door. I see a raised trap over the steps but to my best knowledge there were not Dutch doors on the 1935 cars.

I'll second the above. The CGW car door must be a modification of some kind.
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Re: CGW/MILW ribs for FVW coach - .2mm etch sheet project 1
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2020, 01:50:27 PM »
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It does look like it's just a solid door.  My 'guess' is more based on this picture.



Maybe it was modified or maybe we just can't make out the separation on the MILW picture.  Maybe even in the CGW photo, it's not a separation, just some weird seam.

Jason

Now THAT does look like a Dutch door !