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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #915 on: October 26, 2020, 06:38:13 PM »
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Still can't believe how good those run.

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #916 on: October 27, 2020, 09:16:50 AM »
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Not to add to the temptation for a headlamp, but with all those fluctuating magnetic fields, would a small induction loop pick up enough power to light an LED?

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. The loop would have to be well outside the influence of the magnets on the bottoms of the cars, as they would likely squelch any useful effect the field fluctuations from the track might create--and even then, I suspect it would be pretty feeble.

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #917 on: October 27, 2020, 11:03:52 AM »
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Wonderful!
I would suggest a more "retro" solution...  Remember those clear crystal "gems" they used to put in the headlight lenses of Arnold steam engines?  You don't need something that makes light, just something that catches it and throws it back.



You know, like Buck Rogers' Rocket Pistol... :D

And your engine driver looks exactly like the curmudgeonly type that holds children in great disdain, but loves being the captain of his ship, so he puts up with the noise and sticky seats...

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #918 on: October 27, 2020, 12:22:27 PM »
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Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work. The loop would have to be well outside the influence of the magnets on the bottoms of the cars, as they would likely squelch any useful effect the field fluctuations from the track might create--and even then, I suspect it would be pretty feeble.

Just a thought. The ride as it stands is still awesome!
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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #919 on: October 27, 2020, 01:01:14 PM »
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I would suggest a more "retro" solution...  Remember those clear crystal "gems" they used to put in the headlight lenses of Arnold steam engines?  You don't need something that makes light, just something that catches it and throws it back... You know, like Buck Rogers' Rocket Pistol... :D

Excellent suggestion. I'll see if I have any...

And your engine driver looks exactly like the curmudgeonly type that holds children in great disdain, but loves being the captain of his ship, so he puts up with the noise and sticky seats...

My thoughts exactly, when I picked him out!

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #920 on: October 27, 2020, 01:50:31 PM »
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And your engine driver looks exactly like the curmudgeonly type that holds children in great disdain, but loves being the captain of his ship, so he puts up with the noise and sticky seats...
It's just a part-time job to supplement his social security, but, he'd give anything for the opportunity to travel clockwise once in a while.

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #921 on: October 27, 2020, 01:53:41 PM »
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It's just a part-time job to supplement his social security, but, he'd give anything for the opportunity to travel clockwise once in a while.

Oh, I used to volunteer at a 1:1 narrow-gauge railroad with a loop of track and one train that forever circled it counterclockwise. I think this sentiment is shared by anyone who served as an engineer there!

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #922 on: October 27, 2020, 03:09:45 PM »
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Oh, I used to volunteer at a 1:1 narrow-gauge railroad with a loop of track and one train that forever circled it counterclockwise. I think this sentiment is shared by anyone who served as an engineer there!

Shouldn't they turn the entire consist around and go the other way at some point to double the wheels' life from wear?   :D

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #923 on: October 28, 2020, 08:40:59 AM »
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Shouldn't they turn the entire consist around and go the other way at some point to double the wheels' life from wear?

Yes, they would if they could. But there's no way to turn anything.

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #924 on: October 29, 2020, 12:39:06 PM »
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The very last special effect for my very last layout? We'll see...

This morning I was struck with the idea for another one of those "always wanted to do it" effects: sunset/starry sky. Although I made a nice sunrise/sunset effect for the White River & Northern IV, a starry sky has always posed a problem for big permanent layouts: the backdrop is invariably part of the room's walls, which doesn't provide the opportunity to install stars (other than UV paint/light tricks, which aren't very convincing). But the Mountain Vista is a totally portable layout having a freestanding backdrop with which I could do just about anything.

For the sunset, banks of various colors of LEDs would cast a warm glow across the horizon that would slowly dim to reveal the stars. Basically it would be just one portion of an otherwise impractical full day/night light cycle.

For the stars, my thought is to embed short fiber optics in half-inch Gatorfoam, and mount 0402 SMD LEDs on the back side of the foam. I'd use different sizes of fiber to create a variety of star sizes/brightnesses. Using discrete LEDs would also provide the opportunity to employ modified flickering circuits to imbue the stars with a subtle twinkle effect. Also, I'd use transparent paint to lightly tint the LEDs so I wouldn't have all the same color stars.

I think between the starry sky and the field of fireflies, an almost dreamlike environment could be created. But, we'll see; it's still early days, and I'm not totally sold on the idea yet.


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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #925 on: October 29, 2020, 03:07:05 PM »
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I think between the starry sky and the field of fireflies, an almost dreamlike environment could be created. But, we'll see; it's still early days, and I'm not totally sold on the idea yet.

I am.  DO IT!

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #926 on: October 29, 2020, 04:08:09 PM »
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One of the custom car TV series we watch hid a star field headliner in a van using fiber optics. Very effective.

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #927 on: October 29, 2020, 10:02:50 PM »
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So you've had about 10 hours or so to work on this sunset/starry night idea.  Are you done yet ?  Where's the pictures ?  :D

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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #928 on: October 30, 2020, 08:06:49 AM »
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So you've had about 10 hours or so to work on this sunset/starry night idea.  Are you done yet ?  Where's the pictures ?  :D

Well, I got as far as making this picture:


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Re: The Very Last White River and Northern Railroad
« Reply #929 on: October 30, 2020, 09:11:32 AM »
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I've been dividing my time between this and the fireworks display, which now looks like this:



...and it's still about 104 wires from being done--that is, the LED wiring being done. Then I need to wire the chips--that'll be another 565 connections...