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ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« on: February 10, 2020, 06:09:01 PM »
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I just finished installing LokSound Select Micro Direct (73100) decoders into Atlas GP30 and GP9. This thread documents the install for the GP30.

First off is a video of the finished unit. I simply throttle up/down, with ESU's Drive Hold on, to rev the engines without having the loco move. At the end of the video are the install pictures discussed below


The GP30 is a DCC ready frame, and one which the 73100 ALMOST works right out of the box! Just a couple of "gotchas" to watch out for.

Here is a full view of the install
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You can see the custom enclosure I built for the speaker for this unit. The frame does need some milling, but not, as expected, in the back for the speaker. Instead, the channel over the motor needs to be widened. Besides my liberal use of Kapton tape, the two areas on the left, where the frame extends over the board, need to be cleared. If not, the frame can contact components (or even knock them off).
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This photo shows the area where I milled (pink boxes)
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You will also note two motor wires going to the motor contacts on the upper side of the board. On this specific loco, the brass strips coming from the motor were not in the best of shape and would not maintain contact. So I simply solved the issue by soldering wires to them, and then to the board. I also put some solder blobs onto the two frame pickup pads of the decoder which are under the large frame pads on the right. Speaker wires are the brown wires.

Next is a close up of the rear and custom speaker enclosure
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Made from 0.020" styrene, the enclosure provides sufficient interior volume for the Soberton 8x12mm speaker. The enclosure's width is 0.357", and the height in the rear is 0.185". The length of the deep part runs 0.75 inches, with a 0.090" step to another 0.25" of length on the "porch". If one looks closely, between the enclosure and the board, just to left of the speaker (and large square chip), there is a 0.020" shim of styrene, which keeps the decoder and speaker apart.

I used a warm white 1206 SMD LED for the rear light.

Finally, as can be seen, there really is no room in the front for a regular LED, so instead of soldering another SMD LED, I used the on-board Aux-1 0402 SMD LED as the front headlight. Works just fine, as seen in video.

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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 06:29:30 PM »
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Jeez, Rick,

I just updated the LokSound Installation Master List!  Time to edit again. :D

Nice install.  Did you consider using John LeMerise's L-shaped enclosure for a 9x16mm?  He made it for a GP38/40, but I wonder if it would fit on the GP30?

https://www.shapeways.com/product/47AN33V3Y/gp-38-40-9x16-speaker-enclosure-2pk?optionId=85016610

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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2020, 06:38:40 PM »
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Jeez, Rick,

I just updated the LokSound Installation Master List!  Time to edit again. :D

Nice install.  Did you consider using John LeMerise's L-shaped enclosure for a 9x16mm?  He made it for a GP38/40, but I wonder if it would fit on the GP30?

https://www.shapeways.com/product/47AN33V3Y/gp-38-40-9x16-speaker-enclosure-2pk?optionId=85016610

John C.

Thanks!

Yep, I ordered a couple of his 8x12 enclosures, also for the GP38/40.  But nope, they don't fit either the GP30 or the GP9 (go figure - just getting ready to post that install).  Why I am being so specific on the sizes.
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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2020, 07:12:25 PM »
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Nice Install Rick
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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2020, 07:16:35 PM »
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Added this and the GP7 install to the master list.

Nice to know this can be done, because I don't think the LS 5 DCC would be possible given the Next18 "bump".  I've got a ton of GP7/9's and 30's, and I've been modestly worried about what would happen if I blew one of the LS Select Micro wired decoders I used for the install.  Now I see that the 73100 could be used as a replacement.

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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2020, 07:52:35 PM »
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Rumor has it that once ESU has worked its way through the 73100 board inventory, we should be seeing a similar board with the LS 5 protocols.   But, that could be years.
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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2020, 08:14:53 PM »
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@RBrodzinsky , send me some dimensions on those enclosures man!

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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 08:24:36 PM »
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@RBrodzinsky , send me some dimensions on those enclosures man!

@Lemosteam , see above. I put the dimensions just under the photos in each thread.  And just to validate, yes, the current enclosure you made fits perfectly in a GP40.  Each unit seems to be just a bit off from the other.
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Re: ESU LokSound Select Micro Direct Install into Atlas GP30
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2020, 07:14:15 PM »
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Here is a video of the two recent decoder installs (GP9 being other), along with a third loco (Atlas GP40 BN #180) owned by the client, after I got them all BEMF auto tuned and speed matched.
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