ST GE DCC

[ljudice]

Is ESU 54689 LokPilot V4.0 Micro Decoder MM/DCC/SX Next18 Interface the correct decoder for ST GE's?

Shell removal?  Easy? Is coupler box/coupler one piece, or does coupler come apart when removed???

Thx!!!!

[RBrodzinsky]

Unless you really need the multiple protocols, you can save a buck or two by getting just the DCC version (54686)

[ljudice]

Thanks for the tip....

This decoder has no wire harness, it just plugs in, right?

I presume you can press it in underneath the board without removing it????

[RBrodzinsky]

Yes, just line up the Next18 connectors and press it in. No wires involved

[ljudice]

Great!    Thanks!

[ryan_wilkerson]

Just found this thread.
I also have a ScaleTrains ET44AC (Tier 4 GE) that needs DCC.
Now that we have established 54686 is the non-sound decoder, what about sound?
Is there one that pops right into the Next18 connector?

Anyone know if ScaleTrains used a decoder that's available via retail?

I did some searching and found this one: ESU 58828 "LokSound 5 Micro NMRA DCC Sound Decoder - NEM662 Next18 Integral Connector"
https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU54686LokPilotV4.0MicroNMRADCCDecoderNEM662Next18Connector.aspx

[RBrodzinsky]

@ryan_wilkerson - that is the one to go with.  Bryan at SBS should be able to load the correct sound file for you (don't think you ever got a LokProgrammer).  If you need any help, you know where to find me

[reinhardtjh]

I did some searching and found this one: ESU 58828 "LokSound 5 Micro NMRA DCC Sound Decoder - NEM662 Next18 Integral Connector"
https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU54686LokPilotV4.0MicroNMRADCCDecoderNEM662Next18Connector.aspx

The name is right but the link is wrong...  You wanted https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU58828LokSound5MicroNMRADCCSoundDecoder-NEM662Next18Integral.aspx

[ryan_wilkerson]

Thanks @RBrodzinsky, I don't have the programmer but I'll ask Bryan to load when ordering.

Thanks John for the correction. Looks like I got the v4 and v5 mixed up.

 
So for sound...on the N Scale Decoder page on the ScaleTrains website, they list two (not sure if these are both for ET44AC): https://www.scaletrains.com/product-category/esu-loksound/
ESU 58828   https://www.scaletrains.com/product/esu-loksound-5-micro-dcc-blank-decoder-next18/
ESU 58429   https://www.scaletrains.com/product/58429-loksound-v-5-0-sound-decoder/

From sbs4dcc:
58828  $89.95  https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU58828LokSound5MicroNMRADCCSoundDecoder-NEM662Next18Integral.aspx
58429  $85.95  https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU58429LokSound5StandardNMRADCCSoundDecoder-NEM66021MTCIntegra.aspx

[Steveruger45]

The 588xx series are the lok5 MICRO decoders that fit n scale.
The 584xx series are bigger lok5 decoders (not micro) these will be too big to fit n scale more for HO scale locos.

See link for details.

http://www.esu.eu/en/products/loksound/

Hope this helps

[ryan_wilkerson]

Definitely helps, thanks!

The 588xx series are the lok5 MICRO decoders that fit n scale.
The 584xx series are bigger lok5 decoders (not micro) these will be too big to fit n scale more for HO scale locos.

See link for details.

http://www.esu.eu/en/products/loksound/

Hope this helps

[EspeeGoldenState]

The name is right but the link is wrong...  You wanted https://store.sbs4dcc.com/ESU58828LokSound5MicroNMRADCCSoundDecoder-NEM662Next18Integral.aspx

This is what I installed in two of my Tier 4s and one of my Dash 9s. You solder the speaker to the top of the OEM board.

Chris

[ryan_wilkerson]

Chris, did you buy the DCC-ready version of the locomotive and install a separately purchased 58828 (from ScaleTrains or other source)?
Did you have to buy a speaker or did it come with the loco? If purchased, which one fit?

This is what I installed in two of my Tier 4s and one of my Dash 9s. You solder the speaker to the top of the OEM board.
Chris

[Wolf N Works]

Ryan I can hopefully answer your questions. I just did one of six of mine. I ordered 58828 from a vendor. Just. Are sure it is a micro. You have to supply your own speaker and make a enclosure to fit the space for it in the fuel tank. Pretty straight forth. I looked at spookshow site that shows where the speakers connect just to verify what I thought
Oh if you get one of the v5 with a dongle you can cut off the clear coating and un plug the dongle so that you can snap the decoder into the on board connection

[Steveruger45]

Ryan see this.
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=48271.msg639377#msg639377

This is an install I did in a dcc ready ST dash 9.  Will be pretty much identical to doing a ST Tier 4.