MTL single window coach looks like a winner

[thomasjmdavis]

I'm confused --- are both the NYC and UP SWCs shown in the photos made by MTL? Their roofs and underbodies are quite different.

In my own defense, the caption to the photo reads "...(shown with a UP painted paired window for comparison)...."

[learmoia]

we made an insert in the 6 wheeled truck (second option)  that moved the center of the bolster span so it would work.  No changes to the underframe. 
Joe

Hindsight 20/20 why did you start with the whole offset bolster to begin with... Why not just keep everything centered from the get go?

~Ian

[peteski]

Hindsight 20/20 why did you start with the whole offset bolster to begin with... Why not just keep everything centered from the get go?

~Ian

Was it something about not having to remove the center wheelset to install/remove the kingpin? Or was it so the kingpin did not rub against the center axle?

[bbussey]

Hindsight 20/20 why did you start with the whole offset bolster to begin with... Why not just keep everything centered from the get go?

~Ian

In order to allow the cars to track on 9¾" radius without sacrificing the adjacent stirrups and ladders.

[learmoia]

In order to allow the cars to track on 9¾" radius without sacrificing the adjacent stirrups and ladders.

 

[thomasjmdavis]

Hindsight 20/20 why did you start with the whole offset bolster to begin with... Why not just keep everything centered from the get go?

~Ian

It is very common.  I have some Pecos River ATSF chair cars, from 15 or 20 years before MT RPO was released, that have offset bolsters- even though the PRB sleepers have centered bolsters.  And there are the Atlas 60' cars of a couple years ago, which also have offset bolster pins on the 6 wheel trucks.

In addition to the various reasons already suggested, my observation, for what it's worth, is that by offsetting one way on shorter cars and the other way on longer cars, the short and long cars operate better together AND also seem to operate better with other manufacturers cars that have truck mounted couplers, but YMMV.

[bbussey]

Unless the cars are running on 9¾" radius curves and tighter, it isn't noticeable.  I don't mind it, as I'd rather have the stirrup detail.

[Chris333]

I have hammer, will travel.   

[JoeD]

Cause'   LOL

Hindsight 20/20 why did you start with the whole offset bolster to begin with... Why not just keep everything centered from the get go?

~Ian

[bbussey]

The bathroom glass is frosted. Nicely done.

[Mark5]

I was too impatient to wait for a N&W release, so I picked up one of the Pennsy coaches, thinking I would remove the PRR lettering, paint the ends black, and decal it for N&W (ShellScale). It would represent faded paint (PRR red has more brown than N&W red).

I removed the lettering using MTL Joe's "trick" (camp fuel and Q-tips) and it was more work than I thought it would be, and still a few "artifacts" of the PRR lettering.

Nice cars, and I look forward to an N&W release.

Mark

[OldEastRR]

"Camp fuel" meaning ...? My (many tried) methods of trying to remove MTL printing results is that the paint comes off long before the lettering shows any effect.

[bbussey]

Camp fuel lighting fluid. You should be able to find the thread by searching on camp fuel.

[Maletrain]

Here's the link to Shipsure's original post (see reply #27):

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=29743.msg321853#msg321853

What he said was:

For "fresh" cars you can remove the pad printing using Coleman Camp fuel and a Qtip.  We use it here when we need to correct something and it doesn't effect the paint under.  I've done it on my own cars that were printed a month or so earler and it took a bit of work, but the lettering did come off clean.

Helpful Hint #1

Cheers

Joe

But, at this point, I have severl MTL cars that are well past "fresh".  So, hearing about successes in removing MTL printing would be welcome.

[JoeD]

we also offer undecorated and unpainted cars as well.  I think we have undecorated painted in PRR red in stock and the pullman green.  I don't know if we've put up the 160's yet but they will happen eventually.

Joe

Here's the link to Shipsure's original post (see reply #27):

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=29743.msg321853#msg321853

What he said was:

But, at this point, I have severl MTL cars that are well past "fresh".  So, hearing about successes in removing MTL printing would be welcome.