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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #315 on: August 09, 2022, 02:06:10 PM »
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Finished new benchwork for under Lincoln Yard ( nee-Windsor St Yard, nee-Hagerstown Yard) and set the two pieces in place for a test fit.  Seems a lot smaller than when it was on the trailer coming from Ed's place.


I would be tempted to salvage track and start over ..

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #316 on: August 09, 2022, 02:20:50 PM »
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I would be tempted to salvage track and start over ..

Lol, I don't think Adam wants to deal with the blasting permits that'd be required to get it out of that grout.

Besides, there's a good plan emanating from it. Slowly.

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #317 on: August 09, 2022, 02:41:01 PM »
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Lol, I don't think Adam wants to deal with the blasting permits that'd be required to get it out of that grout.

Besides, there's a good plan emanating from it. Slowly.

What Ed said, re the grout. 

The only thing I'm not loving given it representing Lincoln is the 3 track mainline running along the wall  :?

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #318 on: August 10, 2022, 04:23:26 AM »
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Apply your scenic landforms of choice, e.g., foam and lightweight spackling, right over the unprototypical tracks against the wall and hide them.

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2022, 12:34:05 PM »
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The three tracks originally served as a double track main with a long controlled siding.  It worked well as "not so hidden" staging.
I put it there for Ed's benefit, to have someplace to hold an incoming train while he dicked around switching the A/D tracks.  While we never actually operated the yard as part of a session, the idea was to provide a bit of flexibility to prevent the yard from becoming a choke point for thru traffic.

In my solo experiments, it worked very well.

I also used it to hole up a train that was headed for east staging, to give me the opportunity to move a train out of staging to make room for it.

I wouldn't remove it just yet... maybe paint it out as a weathered, disused siding, but keep the turnouts functional and the railhead shiny... you'll be glad you kept it.

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #320 on: August 10, 2022, 02:09:37 PM »
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The three tracks originally served as a double track main with a long controlled siding.  It worked well as "not so hidden" staging.
I put it there for Ed's benefit, to have someplace to hold an incoming train while he dicked around switching the A/D tracks.  While we never actually operated the yard as part of a session, the idea was to provide a bit of flexibility to prevent the yard from becoming a choke point for thru traffic.

In my solo experiments, it worked very well.

I also used it to hole up a train that was headed for east staging, to give me the opportunity to move a train out of staging to make room for it.

I wouldn't remove it just yet... maybe paint it out as a weathered, disused siding, but keep the turnouts functional and the railhead shiny... you'll be glad you kept it.

Lee

It was very helpful for all of that.

But in Adam's case, the yard will basically be a terminal (with just a tiny bit of industrial switching beyond it).

That said, don't get the dynamite out quite yet homie.

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #321 on: August 10, 2022, 03:13:59 PM »
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Leave it in and set out deadline equipment on it.
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #322 on: August 10, 2022, 03:16:05 PM »
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Don't worry, I've been looking at prototype area and am finding some plausible solutions for the situations.  And I've already passed ideas onto Ed.   :D
I have some track repair to make in a few spots, couple bad switches, patch track where the yard was split, will make good time to make a few small changes to the track arrangement
And none of the ideas mention tearing it out  :scared:
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #323 on: August 10, 2022, 09:37:36 PM »
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I’ll co-opt a phrase from disc golf, my other huge hobby, for when you’re designing a course “it’s much easier to remove a tree than it is to add it back”, which, like, it’s easier to lay track than grow a beautiful huge tree, but it’s still the same idea  :D
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #324 on: August 11, 2022, 03:07:59 PM »
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So after getting both sections up in place, I took bright boy and went across all the track.  There is 1 busted switch, and and least 2 that are glued shut 🤔.  Lack of Atlas code 55 turnouts turned me to ME turnouts.  A slightly different geometry coming off the frog required realigning the tracks.  Well, here's the result



Track is removed but didn't go without a fight, as my nippers are RIP.  Pulled out the multi-tool to clear the grout.  Now I need a new pair of nippers  :|

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #325 on: August 12, 2022, 09:30:14 AM »
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I have a considerable stock of Atlas c55 track and turnouts.  PM me if you'd like a stab at it.  I doubt I'll ever use it again.
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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #326 on: August 12, 2022, 03:42:07 PM »
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And they say the yard grew by 10" that day



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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #327 on: August 13, 2022, 11:36:46 PM »
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Have all the yard tracks patched back together.  I'm thinking of installing a crossover into the inner most "main line" and the outer yard track and using that track as a lead to the LPG terminal that is just south of Lincoln Yard



Below is a link to Google Maps where you can see Lincoln Yard in the center, and the NGL Supply Terminal just to the south.  Also shown is the Lehigh Cement plant further to the east, which is currently in the first pass thoughts of the design, which will be to the left of the yard exit in the photo above, as that area will dead end anyways.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9468539,-76.7725746,1237m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #328 on: September 20, 2022, 04:36:33 PM »
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Finally dove into rewiring the bus today on first half of yard

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Re: CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0 - A design discussion
« Reply #329 on: September 21, 2022, 02:46:16 PM »
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And with a heave ho back up half the yard went, little screw here, little screw there, plug thingy into the wall, hit a few buttons on the DCS 50 and wah-la !  Trains are rolling again in Lincoln/nee-Windsor/nee-Hagerstown Yard

I figured it would only be fitting to see YorkRail's pair of CF7's, kits from @randgust , 1500 and 1504, to be the first occupants of the yard.



Have a few minor adjustments to turnouts and slide switches to make, and we'll get started on the other half of the yard tomorrow