CSX Hanover Subdivision 3.0

[wm3798]

He'll have to build his own damn roundhouse then tear it down after decades of neglect.  It's the CSX way!  Don't forget to pay off the local town council!
Grubby bastards...

Lee

[LKOrailroad]

Actually that's our freezer

Beer fridge is behind me to my right, seen here behind the ladder


Both will ultimately probably end up in the new garage once finished.  Can't take up valuable railroad real estate.

Maybe it is just perspective of the picture but it looks like a very long beam span without a lally column. By design?

[wm3798]

It was previously a garage with open span, so  the beam there is heavier than the one under the rest of the house.  We had a structural engineer review the project, and the loads above aren't changed.  The roof is trussed, so it's only carrying floor loads above.
Should be fine.
Lee

[mu26aeh]

It was also on widepan camera angle.  Room was roughly 20x26 or so

[Mike C]

Thats a man cave !

[wm3798]

Thats a man cave !

Really.  It's almost like he should have bought a 52 Ford F100 just to leave in there before they blocked up the doors!  Am I right?

Oh, and Pro Tip.  Beer fridges come in sizes that fit under the bench work.  Although, being able to navigate the new steps up to the bigger beer fridge will be a suitable sobriety test!

Lee

[mu26aeh]

More demolition tonight.  That should be pretty much it though. 



On to perimeter wall framing !    s better start formulating some ideas, layout planning is getting closer.  And this can actually become a design discussion like the thread title says

[davefoxx]

We’re gonna need a floor plan, givens, and druthers.

DFF

P.S.  Earnhardt fan? 

[mu26aeh]

Floor plan, provided by @wm3798



You can incorporate the old layout, as my good friend up the road wants to do, or we start completely fresh.  Givens/druthers, model the CSX Hanover Subdivision

Earnhardt fan yes !  A piece of me died with him at Daytona that day.  NASCAR was never the same since.  My days following it ended when Jr signed with Hendrick.  Now it's a complete wreck, pun intended.  Dumb rules making a very simple concept difficult to follow.  You run 500 laps in a circle, whoever leads at the end wins.  No segments, no lucky dogs (is that still a rule?).  Get the most points at the end of the season, you win the championship.  You didn't win any races ?  Too bad, you're still the champion (ie Matt Kenseth won championship without winning a single race, that's what started all this horseshit)

Off my soapbox, back to the railroad !  My buddy wants to keep the existing double deck layout, YorkRail on the bottom and Maryland Midland up top or something to that effect.  I'm more of the notion to tear down, start over.  I'd like to add a seating area/crew lounge and probably a propane fire place for ambiance/resale/additional heat source for when we lose power (have geothermal), also some extra heat for the basement.  The only place I could vent a fireplace is the corner of the basement where Vulcan and Hampstead/Porters area currently resides.

I currently have Hagerstown yard, Security, AgCom, DalTile, Morton Buildings, Vulcan Quarry, Utz Foods, Sonoco Plastics (YorkRail), Center St, Smiths Siding, Porters, Suburban Propane, Emory Grove and Spring Grove modeled.  Some extra running space between towns/scenes should be simple to gain with the added space.  I'd like to add the interchanges with Maryland Midland and the Gettysburg & Northern if possible, as well as the Grit Mill outside of Blue Ridge Summit.  Of course that would lead itself to Jacks Mountain tunnel ( paging @PiperguyUMD ).  Since I built my helix, it's no problem if this is single or double deck.  There's a handful of other industries missing, including Quad Graphics-Fairfield (no longer receives rail traffic), Knouse Foods-Orrtanna (mostly traffic during Strawberry season, they do strawberry applesauce at this location, get puree in), Agway-Gettysburg (think it's Cargill now), Hanover Logistics, Hanover Foods.  Only other major traffic source would be Hanover Foods, all others are low volume/handful of cars. 

I'm probably asking too much, but I do have a lot of space to fill now Of course, I also have to keep access available to service furnace and water heater etc so have to keep that in mind as well

[wm3798]

You could always backdate a few decades when it was run like a real railroad rather than as a real estate company and a hedge fund that is inconvenienced by the need to serve the few customers they haven't pissed off yet.
Just a thought.

[PiperguyUMD]

There was a time when the thought of building the big one would stress me out, but now that I've completed three whole modules, I might be warming up to the idea of building the big one! My thought is with so much new space, start over. I'll echo Lee, but I say take it back to 1949 so you can have short legged 2-8-8-2s shoving some beefy H9s through Sabillasville!! I know a guy that makes n scale H9s! Seriously though, the beauty of N scale is the scenery to trains ratio, and even if you take advantage of that in the new space, the old layout will have a different aesthetic. Just my two cents - from a guy with no basement!!

One perk about your time period is the amount of interchange operations that YorkRail and MMID provide. If you get to Sabillasville on the MMID, I'll send you the bridge in the horseshoe curve. A few christmases ago, while visiting the in-laws, I crawled all over that bridge taking measurements, then 3d printed it for my module. If you can use it, I'm happy to hook you up!

[Ed Kapuscinski]

I am so excited for this!

One thing I'm going to mirror Eric's thoughts: I think you've done a great job of capturing much of the operation focused areas on your last revision. However, the thing missing from my perspective is one of the defining characteristics of the line: the open scenery.

[wm3798]

Oooh Oooh!... @PiperguyUMD  there might be someone else building modules with a certain WM flavor who's still looking for a file to experiment with on his shiny new 3D printer...



And it will be properly stenciled!

And I agree with Ed...  More running room.  And remember, long stretches of main line require far less attention from the MOW crew than those tangles of turnouts... 

[Point353]

However, the thing missing from my perspective is one of the defining characteristics of the line: the open scenery.

That scene could be modeled on a relatively narrow shelf, with some orchard trees in the foreground and everything beyond the tracks on a (photo) backdrop.

[mu26aeh]

I did mention right after my current industries the need for more running space between towns/stops 😁.  At least we're all on the same page