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Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« on: October 03, 2019, 08:13:51 AM »
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While looking at the railroad news yesterday (NS lost a bridge there - https://www.komu.com/news/video-logjam-demolishes-brunswick-railroad-bridge )  I noticed something else.  This is the NS main line that ties into BNSF.

There's what looks like a grain elevator complex there at Brunswick, MO - check out Google Earth, with a nice oval with relatively tight curves.   And at least on the Google Earth imagery, a unit grain train on the oval that is all the way in, and long enough that the power is about six carlengths short of touching the very last car - the entire train is on the oval.

I've seen unit train loops before but this is rather unusual to see one with a unit train stuck on it where it's almost a continuous circle, and there's even two exit switches on the circle to tie into the main.   Someplace there's an Atlas 101 Track Plans that this came from.

This is an HCD prototype for sure, and you'd have to show the shots to prove it.     And you can even run long trains....

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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2019, 09:41:58 AM »
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Google maps has the same aerial: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4299146,-93.1481305,561m/data=!3m1!1e3
Not much opportunity for switching on such a layout.  ;)
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2019, 10:33:38 AM »
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Also what is probably going on in the photo...  The train came in from the west and had to pull thru the loop once to clear the main.  Second pass is for loading which is too slow, would leave the main fouled for too long.  They've got about 500 feet left for more cars in their unit trains.
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2019, 11:08:35 AM »
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Another example would be some of the ore processing plants in Minnesota.
 Unitac: https://goo.gl/maps/UhZrZ1dxDV2styei6  <raw ore trains in from the Thunderbird mine; loaded taconite out.
 Minorca: https://goo.gl/maps/nrq8aaagjk82fFR38

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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2019, 12:27:01 PM »
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... Not much opportunity for switching on such a layout.  ;)

I've shared this before: https://goo.gl/maps/JnNd2bqMBRz35fPT9

There might be a couple of switching projects in there.   :trollface:
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 12:35:31 PM »
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All of our new grain elevators are of similar design...

The "super terminals" that killed the country grain elevators in Western Canada are themselves being phased out and replaced by loops.

The elevator staff is trained and runs the train around their loop for loading.
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 01:22:03 PM »
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The Milwaukee had a loop that went in a circle at Fox Lake Wisconsin, There were several shippers within the loop as well as the Fox Lake depot.

I think there was another at Beaver Dam Wisconsin.


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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2019, 04:18:31 PM »
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This loop at Delaware City, Delaware, as a destination for those unit trains of oil tankers, is double-tracked!  Wanna race?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5928144,-75.6571054,795m/data=!3m1!1e3

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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2019, 04:28:58 PM »
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This loop at Delaware City, Delaware, as a destination for those unit trains of oil tankers, is double-tracked!  Wanna race?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5928144,-75.6571054,795m/data=!3m1!1e3

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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2019, 04:38:37 PM »
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2019, 06:02:58 PM »
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2019, 06:56:32 PM »
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Going further west:

Swan Ranch industrial park: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.077404,-104.8933623,2888m/data=!3m1!1e3

Lots of industry there, UP/BNSF interchange.

One just south of San Antonio, most likely originally intended for frac sand: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.2953938,-98.4333098,1108m/data=!3m1!1e3


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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2019, 08:03:52 PM »
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Going further west:

Swan Ranch industrial park: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.077404,-104.8933623,2888m/data=!3m1!1e3

Lots of industry there, UP/BNSF interchange.

One just south of San Antonio, most likely originally intended for frac sand: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.2953938,-98.4333098,1108m/data=!3m1!1e3

Hmm, mathed out the bottom one. still looking like a 32" min curve, could be fun as a moving diorama deal but would still be a good chunk of space if you attempted to to go max Rivet Counter.
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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 12:20:42 AM »
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It ain't prototypic. :D

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Re: Prototype roundy-roundy begging for N
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 01:34:03 PM »
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One just south of San Antonio, most likely originally intended for frac sand: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.2953938,-98.4333098,1108m/data=!3m1!1e3

And another west of San Antonio — oil tankers, hoppers, flats & a huge pipe yard.

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