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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1530 on: March 15, 2021, 11:18:38 PM »
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Laughing & pointing has commenced... almost shat myself.

Reminds me of that old Stephen King movie... The Langoliers.
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1531 on: March 16, 2021, 12:03:53 AM »
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I actually am a fan of having items on the edge of the layout with the part chopped off that goes past the plane of the layout  - just as if somebody cut a piece out of the world and lifted it out. Very cool. It makes the viewer realize that the layout's world extends past the layout edge. This works really neat for buildings. Backdrops do the same thing, but with a 2D illusion of the extended world that isn't really there. Too many layouts are scenicked as an end in themselves -- the edge of the layout really is the edge of the world.

However, using the "chopped off" technique surely isn't a retro concept of N scale 1960s.  :D

Incidentally, I never called that new span a "bridge to nowhere". I am completely accepting that if somebody had to have a road go somewhere, they would have put it in using whatever means possible. My opinion was the bridge is too massive and modern for such a dinky road which apparently is a minor route into town. A single lane, through truss bridge of rickety design -- maybe a Howe truss certainly not load rated to hold a modern day big rig -- propped up on a forest of wooden pilings would be what I consider a realistic version. There may be a Z scale bridge that'd work.

Glad to see you decided its crossing of the tracks only merits a crossbucks and not a flashing signal with gates. Speaking of crossings -- what's the fatality rate and incident frequency for people hit trying to cross the multiple tracks in this area?  :trollface:

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1532 on: March 16, 2021, 10:58:44 AM »
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I had started out with the idea of a wood trestle carrying a narrow road into the station and the mill, but with the new urban ethos of Cornersville, I thought it would look terribly out of place.  Plus, given its span across a curving double track main, the engineering demands on a timber trestle would have had to stretch the imagination a bit.

With the new track plan in place for the industrial area, I can extend the two lane road around to meet up with the road that comes in from downtown.
Should be a delightfully crowded scene in the best style of @DKS .

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1533 on: March 16, 2021, 02:52:19 PM »
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I had started out with the idea of a wood trestle carrying a narrow road into the station and the mill, but with the new urban ethos of Cornersville, I thought it would look terribly out of place.  Plus, given its span across a curving double track main, the engineering demands on a timber trestle would have had to stretch the imagination a bit.

With the new track plan in place for the industrial area, I can extend the two lane road around to meet up with the road that comes in from downtown.
Should be a delightfully crowded scene in the best style of @DKS .

Something like this...



Lee

That 90 degree "elbow" crossing, in the upper center, is going to be a bit tricky.

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1534 on: March 16, 2021, 02:57:29 PM »
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I'm not sure why it would be necessary to have two paths into the center if there is one already to the far right?
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1535 on: March 16, 2021, 03:04:49 PM »
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That 90 degree "elbow" crossing, in the upper center, is going to be a bit tricky.

Not sure why. I think they're called "doglegs." And many industrial urban roads are inundated with bits of sidings and whatnot.

I'm not sure why it would be necessary to have two paths into the center if there is one already to the far right?

Provides a route for through traffic, which adds interest--certainly better than the multiple dead-ends many layouts have (mine included).

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1536 on: March 16, 2021, 03:13:02 PM »
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I don’t mind roads leaving the edge of the layout. I just avoid having a bridge terminate in mid air. It just doesn’t look right to me... my term for this being the bridge to nowhere. It looks like a project that funding got pulled from because someone’s brother in law divorced someone’s sister. As a taxpayer, that wastefulness bothers me.

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1537 on: March 16, 2021, 03:19:33 PM »
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What about snagging/catching on loose clothing, etc. as people walk by?

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1538 on: March 16, 2021, 03:37:21 PM »
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Provides a route for through traffic, which adds interest--certainly better than the multiple dead-ends many layouts have (mine included).

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Oh, I 100% get that, but it comes at the cost of access and/or parking for some of the businesses and is akin to trying to put 2 feet in one sock.
It was only an observation and I am enjoying watching the progress. 
Carry on.
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1539 on: March 16, 2021, 04:44:13 PM »
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Goal Number One:  Run Old Trains.
Goal Number Two:  Build Interesting Scenes through which to Run Old Trains.
Goal Number Three:  Use a bunch of buildings and kits I have laying around to enhance the enjoyment of Goal 2, and work on them while I RUN OLD TRAINS.
Goal Number Four:  Enjoy the fruits of my labor in Goals 1-3 by sharing photos of the Interesting Scenery featuring OLD TRAINS RUNNING.

I'm typically not a Rule #1 Guy, I always appreciate feedback and suggestions.  The existence of Cornersville at all is evidence of that.

My flying bridges are integral to goals 3, 4, and 5.  They help promote the illusion that my layout extends beyond the edge of the table.  My river extends beyond the scene, as to the mountains and flats along the backdrop.  The only thing that's fully contained on the platform is the railroad tracks, but even they reach "beyond" by slipping behind the skyboard.

As for things snagging on the bridges, so far so good.  The table height is about 48" above the floor, so it's well clear of my ample posterior and omnipresent gut, and with my workbench chair pretty much right below it, it is not in any danger of being in a traffic lane.  So to with the new bridge which is at the end of the layout where no one really goes but me.  (and periodically the cat).
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1540 on: March 16, 2021, 04:49:21 PM »
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My flying bridges are integral to goals 3, 4, and 5.

Erm... I only see four goals...  :P

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1541 on: March 16, 2021, 04:54:48 PM »
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^^^^^^ 😆😆😆😆

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1542 on: March 16, 2021, 04:57:12 PM »
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In a previous lifetime, I had a similar installation, although it might have been more to @CRL's liking.

The US 11 Bridge at North Junction ends abruptly at the fascia, but I'm hard pressed to find a photo that includes that.







Ah, here's one.



And another from during its construction...



This bridge actually dates back to my layout from the late 80s, where it served much the same purpose.

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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1543 on: March 16, 2021, 04:57:55 PM »
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Erm... I only see four goals...  :P

Goal Five is to JFRTM!
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Re: N Scale Hi Rail - Retro Hollow Core Door Layout
« Reply #1544 on: March 16, 2021, 05:01:01 PM »
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enjoy following each day
your decisions and keeping with the theme are so appreciated
and your goals are things i can really relate to
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