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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #195 on: March 27, 2019, 08:40:57 PM »
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Keeping with the 7' x 3' platform for the moment, and made a couple of minor tweaks.



Moved the crossover on the front out a bit, so it could serve as a short siding as well as a runaround track when needed, and added a crossover at the back where the reverse loop ties back in. 

I may yet cave in and do a double slip switch at the junction from the station, but at $50 for a new Peco, or casting my lot with an antique that may or may not be viable, I'll try to make do without one for now.

The yellow lines indicate the possible application of the "box" method.  If possible, I'd like to make the return loop at the right end to Ttrak spec, to both allow me to insert my modules, as well as have some corners available as part of the traveling road show.

I like how this set up reduces the project to bite size pieces, and that I can build the engine terminal portion and only need to have the two turnouts for the crossover at the front...  I could start that tomorrow (except I goofed off most of today, and I REALLY need to get some billable hours recorded!!)  The majority of the turnouts are on the front module, so I can install what I need to get trains running, then add to it as materials become available.  I don't anticipate building the trackwork in a modular way, since there would be a lot of joints at angles etc., but it will be nice to know that I have that option, and some flexible frames that can reused when I get tired of mucking about in the Ancient History Wing of the N Scale Museum of Progress.

For now, I think I'm going to shift my focus to the Ttrak module challenge, and run some more loops on the current retro rig until such time it's organs get donated to this new design.

Until next time,
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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #196 on: March 27, 2019, 09:17:07 PM »
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Lee which Peco double slip do you need..(Code 80 I assume) I may know of one at a decent price..

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #197 on: March 27, 2019, 09:29:57 PM »
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@learmoia , see the diagram above, it would be located where the 15degree crossover comes out of the passenger terminal to the blue mainline.  Originally, I was after the simplicity of running passenger trains counterclockwise on the outer loop, and freights clockwise on the inner.  You know, like ya do.
But the more I (over)think about it, putting a double slip in would make it a whole lot more flexible, and use a lot less space.

Yes, a code 80 would be preferred.  If necessary we can step into the back room for a chat about it.... 8)

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #198 on: March 27, 2019, 10:17:11 PM »
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No, no.  The 2x8 is a board: 1-1/2 thick by 7-1/2 wide.  whole thing was maybe 3x5 feet

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #199 on: March 28, 2019, 05:21:34 AM »
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So, I took your modular concept and pushed some things around so turnouts wouldn't fall on any joints. I also rolled in a token little freight yard to fiddle, an interchange, and more industries just to be sure the bowl had as much pasta as it could hold. Naturally you won't be in a position to purchase the 34 switches it has (14 left, 20 right) right away, so you can build things up over time as allowed or desired. Enjoy.

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #200 on: March 28, 2019, 08:11:01 AM »
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No, no.  The 2x8 is a board: 1-1/2 thick by 7-1/2 wide.  whole thing was maybe 3x5 feet

That's more like it for a NYC apartment!  :D

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #201 on: March 28, 2019, 09:48:46 AM »
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Well, that's an eyefull!

Would definitely have to be built incrementally.  Although, looking at the box of leavings from the WM layout, I could probably build it in c55 and still have stuff leftover!  But that's not the point of the exercise, is it?

Well, while you were all puzzling over switching puzzles, I grabbed my 126 Instamatic and a few flash cubes and headed down to Retro Rock to do some railfanning.

Since I haven't put a stitch of scenery in place on the layout, this was the place to be.  In addition to the roar of brass gears and sloppy drive trains, the noise kicked up by the flanges hitting the ties was incredible!

The first train to appear was a peddler heading off to work the industries of Retro City.



That Pennsy FM sure looked sharp.  A few minutes later, I knew it was time for the Capitol Limited to roar by, pulled today by a shining A-B lashup of B&O F units.



The parade continued with a steam powered freight, switching the local industries along the way.



Once the little tank engine cleared the block I saw the high green signal clearance for a Western Maryland fast freight, led by a crisply polished Alco.



The unmistakable sound of EMD 567s told me that the Liberty Limited was due any moment.  The Pennsylvania's Tuscan Red flashed by on its way to Buffalo, a consist of "the Fleet of Modernism" in tow.



Not to be outdone, the Best and Only had equipped the National limited with a new streamlined E-8, which made short work of the grade up from the Retro River Valley.



Around noon, after all the varnish had passed, another switcher arrived bringing more commerce to the city, and much needed revenue to the railroad.  The CR FM switcher was patched together with parts from 6 different rail lines, but the shiny blue paint put a bright face on the situation.



It made it to the interchange track just in time, as the Conrail scheduled freight made the connection a short time later, behind a single F unit.



Working the other side of the valley, the B&O's local arrived, pulled today by an old reliable 0-4-0.  She's running better than she ever did since the boys in the shop added those pick ups to the tender and a bunch of lead to the boiler!



Turning our sights back to the main, it sounded like the next locomotive was doing all it could just to keep all the parts moving in the same direction.  Maintenance deferred, and limping on its last legs, a decrepit Penn Central Fairbanks Morse did the best it could to deliver the goods, even if they're a little... okay maybe a lot... late.



It made it off to a siding just in time, as it's cousin, a train that used to have a name... and passengers, rolled across the jointed rail as best it could to deliver the handful of passengers and several bags of mail that bothered to come along for the ride.  I wasn't sure which of the two F units was actually running, but I'm sure all aboard were glad that at least one of them would get them home.



Laboring under the same pressure from shiny new automobiles and speedy airplanes, the B&O's Shenandoan did the best it could to attract riders with slippery looking stainless lightweight cars, but due to a decline in business, they were being pulled by a tired looking pair of F units, which would shortly be making more money for the railroad by hauling coal to Baltimore instead of people.



As the mists of evening began to gather, and the misery of watching the once great railways struggle to retain some of their lost glory, I thought I heard something I never thought I'd hear...  The unmistakable Banshee whistle of a Pennsylvania K4.  I rubbed my eyes... surely my imagination had gotten the best of me.  I mean, this was the early 70s.  The only K4s that still existed were rusting away in museums, and resting in peace at Horseshoe Curve.  But I know I heard it.  I closed my eyes, and listened... and there was no mistake.  The Broadway Limited, fully Pullman equipped, brightly lit, and packed with happy travelers, roared by on its mythic run to Chicago!



They'd never believe this over on the Railwire, which at the time was a mimeographed flyer that circulated by mail.  But if that wasn't hard enough to swallow, what happened next was even more unbelievable.  More chuffing in the distance, another assertive wail of a steam whistle... this one more throaty and confident, and a headlight appeared around the bend.



It was the flagship of the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, the Royal Blue, whisking passengers and express to the piers at Newark to connect with the ferry across the Hudson to Gotham.  President Polk, a gleaming P7 Pacific was at the point, and the classic blue and gray consist made good time as it passed my perch.

Shaking my head, I looked down at my little instamatic, and hoped against hope that when I picked up the prints from the Fotomat next week that I hadn't missed any of this incredible action.  As I walked toward my Plymouth Valiant, I heard the clanking of a bell and creak of old drivers as they drifted to a stop up on the embankment.  One more shot, but it's getting dark... better use the flash cube...



A Pennsy 0-6-0 was handling a short transfer run from Arnold over to Rapido, wheezing steam from the cylinders as it paused to wait for the position lights to switch at least to an approach. 

It was a great day to take in some old school railroading. 

All the Best,
Lee
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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #202 on: March 28, 2019, 09:56:30 AM »
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Wow, what an awesome collection of venerable, memorable first gen goodies! You'll have no end of options for ops on the new retro tech layout. Do you have a name for the beast yet, or did I miss it earlier in the thread?

Or... should we have a naming contest?

 
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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #203 on: March 28, 2019, 10:08:07 AM »
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A name hasn't occurred to me yet, but I'm sure it will... perhaps with a bit of coaxing from the assembled peanut gallery...  I obviously have a weakness for the big northeast systems, but I don't know that the concept should be geographically limited...

Since it's really a big exercise in nostalgia, I suspect there's something in that direction that will have a ring to it. 

I cast my lot to you all, dear readers, to concoct an appropriate moniker for the project.  The prize will be an anemic modern engine, it's soul hollowed out to make room for a decoder that no longer makes the lights work, and its delicate added on grab irons broken off by an aging model railroader who no longer has patience for such things.

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #204 on: March 28, 2019, 11:42:06 AM »
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BF&W?

But in all seriousness, I can't think of anything more retro than one of those goofy punny names like the Gorre & Daphetid.

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #205 on: March 28, 2019, 12:14:58 PM »
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This thread is SOOOOOO bookmarked!

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #206 on: March 28, 2019, 12:23:22 PM »
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Baltimore & Strasburg aka the BS Line.

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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #207 on: March 28, 2019, 04:36:16 PM »
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I grabbed my 126 Instamatic and a few flash cubes and headed down to Retro Rock to do some railfanning.
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Re: Retro Tech Layout Project - N Scale Compact Layout
« Reply #208 on: March 28, 2019, 06:47:24 PM »
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Heh... you caught me! :D
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