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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #750 on: January 28, 2019, 10:18:21 PM »
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Supposedly, Dental Castable Green was sent out as the 250ml starter resin with the last round of Lightning Deal Photons.  Fingers crossed that's the same this round too!  8)
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« Reply #751 on: January 29, 2019, 12:11:21 AM »
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Mine does resin printing.  I have two crowns that were printed and they feel 10x better than my old porcelain crowns.

I couldn't help but note that my dentist used a scanning wand to scan my ground down tooth to make the inner surface of the crown.

Boy I was wishing I had his technology.

I jokingly asked him if he could print some model trains for me..... and he said his only does teeth.

I had a crown made from a 3D scan few years ago,  The dentist kept scanning the ground down tooth with a wand for quite some time and the software kept forming the 3D model.  But I think that dental scanner is specifically made for producing featureless organic shapes, rather than objects with lots of flat surfaces and small and distinct details (like our models). That would explain your dentist's response. The crown itself was not 3D printed but machined by a small NC milling machine from a block of special ceramic which after machining was put in an oven and fired to be hardened.  But that was few years ago so the technology could have changed since that time.
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #752 on: January 29, 2019, 09:37:58 AM »
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Now I'm wondering how a printed part would hold up while being used a master in a vulcanizing mold for spin casting white metal (I cast using Britannia Metal -LEAD FREE Pewter Alloy- 92 Percent Tin). For the organic rubber molds I use, it'll need to take 330 degrees while under 2500 to 3500 psi for about 35 minutes. Next warm day we get around here, I'll have to try it. If this does work, it'll open the door for all kinds of stuff that I've wanted to do (like steam loco frames).

I'm going to give that a test too with my vulcanizer press.  Hopefully for the small parts I'm thinking of, there won't be any problems.  It's not the temperature I'm worried about, but the pressure. 

If the prints crush or deform,  then I'll be visiting my local rock shop to have them cast up some brass masters I can use as masters for my vulcanizing press to produce wax burn-out masters. 

Not a big deal either way, but one less step if the prints don't crush.

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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #753 on: January 29, 2019, 09:49:28 AM »
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Mine does resin printing.  I have two crowns that were printed and they feel 10x better than my old porcelain crowns.

I couldn't help but note that my dentist used a scanning wand to scan my ground down tooth to make the inner surface of the crown.

Boy I was wishing I had his technology.

I jokingly asked him if he could print some model trains for me..... and he said his only does teeth.

I had a crown made from a 3D scan few years ago,  The dentist kept scanning the ground down tooth with a wand for quite some time and the software kept forming the 3D model.  But I think that dental scanner is specifically made for producing featureless organic shapes, rather than objects with lots of flat surfaces and small and distinct details (like our models). That would explain your dentist's response. The crown itself was not 3D printed but machined by a small NC milling machine from a block of special ceramic which after machining was put in an oven and fired to be hardened.  But that was few years ago so the technology could have changed since that time.

I was recently in this business on the engineering side of things.  There are a few methods out there for dental scanning.  I once tried to scan a small Delrin gear using a $50,000 laser dental scanner.  It didn't work out too well because that type of scanning is based on reflectivity of the laser.  There are some scanner sprays you can use on the part to be scanned to make it reflect properly but you have to know what you are doing.  The software is the key in putting all that data into a 3D solids model.

The method you two describe is actually "photo scanning".  The wand doesn't use any type of laser but it is actually a small camera that captures snap shots very quickly.  The software then pieces the images into a 3D solids model.  The reason why it takes some time is that the dentist needs to move the wand around a few times to absolutely capture all the nooks and crannies of the tooth in the confined space of  your mouth.  If the wand can't see that area, it will not be captured and you'll end up with voids in the model.

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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #754 on: January 29, 2019, 11:36:32 AM »
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U18b

I thought the same thing when my old dentist used the same tech on me. Even showed me the machine and how everything worked. I asked about scanning some detail parts for my trains and got the same answer (even tried to tell her that they were teeth for some trains). The problem with these 'fillings' (other than she billed the insurance co. as partial crowns and got more money) is the surface MUST be perfectly dry or the glue they use allows pinhole cavities to form. All of these fillings I had needed to be replaced (with the insurance co yelling about crowns not needing to be replaced) at an additional cost to me.
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #755 on: January 29, 2019, 02:35:14 PM »
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I was recently in this business on the engineering side of things.  There are a few methods out there for dental scanning.  I once tried to scan a small Delrin gear using a $50,000 laser dental scanner.  It didn't work out too well because that type of scanning is based on reflectivity of the laser.  There are some scanner sprays you can use on the part to be scanned to make it reflect properly but you have to know what you are doing.  The software is the key in putting all that data into a 3D solids model.

The method you two describe is actually "photo scanning".  The wand doesn't use any type of laser but it is actually a small camera that captures snap shots very quickly.  The software then pieces the images into a 3D solids model.  The reason why it takes some time is that the dentist needs to move the wand around a few times to absolutely capture all the nooks and crannies of the tooth in the confined space of  your mouth.  If the wand can't see that area, it will not be captured and you'll end up with voids in the model.

Exactly, the scanner's software which accepts the scanned data to generate the CAD file that is specifically geared towards the type of 3D modeling needed for making crowns.  It could not properly deal with the type of object we want to produce for our hobby.
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #756 on: January 30, 2019, 06:57:04 PM »
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Right before I bought at Shapeways I put the parts I printed up and it looked like the coupler needed to go up .015". I did that to the 3D model before buying in brass. Today I printed that file and it turned out the coupler needed to go .015 down not up.

triple   :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #757 on: January 30, 2019, 10:46:07 PM »
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There was a time you could email them before the part went to actual production and provide a new file with minor changes like that.  Worth a shot at least.



I did FEP change #2 today.  This one went bad a lot quicker than the first FEP, but it's definitely my own fault for failing to 'spread the load'.  I think every one of my prints from the last 2L were centered, unlike the first FEP where I used offset centers. 

In any case, FEP changing is not hard at all.  This time I used FEP from FlexVat: https://flexvat.com/products/fep-film?variant=21850959491

The 4 foot roll will maximize your purchase, coming out to about $2.50 per FEP change. 

First observations, FlexVat states a thickness that is only .023mm thinner than Anycubic FEP, but this stuff seems a lot thinner!  When tightened, FlexVat FEP also feels more 'giving' than Anycubic FEP.
And wow is this stuff crystal clear compared to Anycubic's FEP!  It's crystal clear period. 

Hopefully FlexVat FEP holds up in practice as well as it compares in looks. 
I have a set of bridge K-rails printing now, in Mechanagon Gray.  Emptied the last of that bottle.  At the $20/500ml sale price, I'd definitely use it again. 

 

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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #758 on: January 30, 2019, 10:51:32 PM »
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I bought that same 4' roll, but haven't used any yet.


Here is my final Climax pilot:

And this is a real one:


The polling pockets were tapered, but the slicing stepped them. I quick twist with a drill bit will fix that.

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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #759 on: January 31, 2019, 05:06:20 AM »
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The polling pockets were tapered, but the slicing stepped them. I quick twist with a drill bit will fix that.

What?  No ball end mill laying around? :P

They look excellent!  I'm getting ready to print my partially completed wooden coal buggy to see how some of my detail choices will print.  I suspect I'll be editing some. 

Questions.  It looks like the end door is steel.  And I was wondering if the other end might be as well.  I don't see any reinforcement steel straps wrapping around the end which makes me wonder if it isn't steel, too.  Also, the rivets inside would need at least a beefy washer but also might just be steel straps mirroring the outside.  Any advice on those things?
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #761 on: January 31, 2019, 06:17:41 AM »
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Thanks @Chris333 !  Treasure trove there.  I see how the end would be done without the straps wrapping around the corner.  Perfect.
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #762 on: January 31, 2019, 06:44:56 AM »
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FWIW the drawings I gave were from the North American Transportation & Trading Company. They had a small 5 mile RR in Alaska using these carts. I'm sure there are many different types. Here is the whole thing:
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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #763 on: January 31, 2019, 08:08:57 PM »
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Ok, so I think I'm getting the hang of this. I'm pretty happy with how my WM 66 ton hopper turned out, but what is causing this line? When viewed in person, it looks like a crease running along the body of the hopper. Is this the Z wobble mentioned else where? Thanks for the help!


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Re: Anycubic Photon
« Reply #764 on: January 31, 2019, 08:31:40 PM »
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That line is right were the slope sheets end and the suction to the FEP changes.