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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2018, 04:33:01 PM »
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I'm pretty sure the Glade Creek Mill is a reproduction. The real one washed away or something like that. The narrow gauge Mann's Creek railroad ran right up on the hill.

Yep built in 1976:
https://www.loc.gov/item/2015634250/

This 3' gauge trestle was about 1/2 mile down the creek from where the mill is now:
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,275629,275631
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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2018, 06:27:16 PM »
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I'm pretty sure the Glade Creek Mill is a reproduction. The real one washed away or something like that. The narrow gauge Mann's Creek railroad ran right up on the hill.

Yep built in 1976:
https://www.loc.gov/item/2015634250/

This 3' gauge trestle was about 1/2 mile down the creek from where the mill is now:
http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,275629,275631

Wow, thanks for all of that additional information, Chris! I especially like the trestle, as that's one of the next upcoming topics. In the meantime, I detailed an aspect of the track in a post on the Faux Code 40 thread: https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=44158.msg567303#msg567303

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2018, 07:26:16 PM »
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If you zoom in around that area you will see "Narrow Gauge Trail" You can see the tight curve where the trestle was.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sewell,+New+Haven,+WV+25831/@37.9882536,-80.9527487,323m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x884ebd0d835266cf:0x445d1a46955819cd!8m2!3d37.997335!4d-81.0209315

It was called "tank trestle" because there was a water tank on the north side of the trestle. Was 224' long, 35' above the creek and on a 44 degree curve (135' or 10" R in N scale! )

Someone who models the RR in On3 visited the area. He took part of a buried RR tie to cut his O scale ties. He found the roof to one of the Shays in the woods and stone walls of the enginehouse still standing.
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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2018, 08:22:25 PM »
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And very close to that area was "Clifftop" where the Mann's Creek Railroad had a company store, another small enginehouse, car shops and a coal mine.
this is the store:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clifftop,+WV+25831/@38.0054532,-80.9376527,105m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x884ea2ff4b4f1d1f:0xc027b454fc69233d!8m2!3d38.0042804!4d-80.9439848

http://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/wvulibraries:69335

https://www.flickr.com/photos/woodhick/6162852002

There was a narrow gauge spur into the basement of this building. The small addition on the left was a post office. There were a total of 8 coal mines in this area and a large sawmill at Landisburg.

useless info I know, but it fits in with your back woods railroad.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2018, 08:35:44 PM »
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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2018, 11:19:03 AM »
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This morning I wrapped up the wooden trestle for the G&RB. Originally I was going to adapt a Micro Scale Models kit I had on hand. However, the kit was an utter embarrassment, with no end of design flaws and guffaws: they called it a "trustle" bridge—I kid you not—and the deck ties were sized and shaped exactly like old Code 80 European flex track! It wasn't a cheap kit, either, so I tried my best to make of it what I could, but the wood was soft and easily broken, and ultimately I wound up tossing everything into the trash.



So I designed my own proper wooden trestle exactly to suit my layout, and had it laser-cut. Here it is about half done:



And now it's finished:





Next up will be installation. The ties are notched to accept the rail, so this will be a snap.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2018, 11:23:13 AM »
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Very nice!  I love me a good trestle.

Hey, DKS, got a minute...?   :D

My task is to build this one...RGS Bridge 45A at Ophir.


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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2018, 11:25:57 AM »
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Very nice!  I love me a good trestle.

Hey, DKS, got a minute...?   :D

My task is to build this one...RGS Bridge 45A at Ophir.



Lotta wood in that thang, but laser-cutting the bents is a big timesaver. Also lasering the cross braces on the bents. The rest, well, it'll just be a lot of cutting and gluing.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2018, 11:29:22 AM »
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So now that you've taken old Minitrix sectional track and reduced the rail heigh by half...can you re-gauge it to 3' gauge?   :D

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2018, 11:37:43 AM »
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So now that you've taken old Minitrix sectional track and reduced the rail heigh by half...can you re-gauge it to 3' gauge?   :D

Prob'ly. But I may be too lazy to bother. We'll see.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2018, 12:09:37 PM »
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And, it's in:




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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2018, 02:55:53 PM »
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What's the plan for the two short bents on either side of the track below?

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2018, 04:15:06 PM »
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I love that bridge and kudos on getting fit into the layout well.  By the way, the faux ties look hilarious until you get them ballasted.  That's a lot of work, but the results are really worth it.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2018, 04:49:35 PM »
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What's the plan for the two short bents on either side of the track below?

They look a little shorter in the photo than they really are--it's an illusion due to the thick roadbed. The plan is just to install footings, which will be slightly higher than track grade.

I love that bridge and kudos on getting fit into the layout well.  By the way, the faux ties look hilarious until you get them ballasted.  That's a lot of work, but the results are really worth it.

Thank you! Yeah, they do look goofy at first. But the process of installing them is getting quicker as I go--it's not quite as tedious now. Thing is, I'm running out of them--I'll have to order up another batch soon.

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Re: Greystone and Rock Bottom Railroad
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2018, 08:58:34 PM »
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I can't wait to see what DKS will hold next!
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