Flying Scotsman in USA

[Missaberoad]

It had its buffers when it was in Canada, 1970...

[atsf3751]

It had its buffers when it was in Canada, 1970...

My error, she still had her buffers in the USA. Here is a black and white pic taken in Houston. The pilot was bright red.

[peteski]

Actually the buffers in front were removed and a big red USA style steam pilot added before it left England. Once it arrived in Boston a headlight was mounted next to the stack.

Yuck!
Fortunately I wasn't here to witness the Americanized version. I was just a kid growing up in Poland.

[CBQ Fan]

That would be nice, but I seem to recall Jason saying that they aren't quite ready to tackle N scale steam yet.

That does not surprise me.  But, if someone was going to do it they feel like the right company.

[wes_sutton]

My wife for Christmas got me the 4 CD set about this engine when it toured the USA and Australia, and that got me interested in it. Hatton's (in the U.K.) has the engine with cars. The manufacturer is Dapol
and the model is 2S-011-001D. Anyone have any experience with this company's products? Are they any good? It would make a different looking train.

As someone else mentioned Dapol have produced a number of models of Flying Scotsman (and cars) in a variety of colour schemes it carried - obviously all 1:148, which given the disparity in real life loading gauges sits just fine alongside N scale 1:160. Dapol cop the odd bad review, but I've not seen anything seriously bad about the Scotsman model. I have several Dapol locos in my collection and have not had any problems.

The -001D - the D is for DCC fitted and it looks like it is currently a pre-order item at Hattons.

There is also a Graham Farish version, but it is much older tooling and looks very dated.

As for the CDs it is probably worth pointing out that the US and Australian tours were completely separate adventures some years apart and the loco was under different ownership when it came to Oz. I have a small album of Flickr covering part of its Australian trip https://www.flickr.com/photos/markcarter/albums/72157627518809555

[Paradise275]

One of the fellows at our club has a Dapool locomotive.
The problem with them is you can't take them apart. The shell is glued on.
He needed a replacement shell part and they ripped it off another loco with the glue still showing.

Rick

[atsf3751]

One of the fellows at our club has a Dapool locomotive.
The problem with them is you can't take them apart. The shell is glued on.
He needed a replacement shell part and they ripped it off another loco with the glue still showing.

Rick

Being glued together is definitely a problem. Hatton's has responded to my questions and one I asked is if there is room for a sound decoder. Their answer is no, there is no room for a decoder and speaker, it has a 6 pin plug for the included decoder. It does appear to be a tender drive engine, so there might be room in the boiler but that could be a problem to access if it is glued on. Looks like I may have to pass on this loco.

[Mr Z]

It had its buffers when it was in Canada, 1970...

Heres a YouTube video showing the Flying Scotsman coming to the U.S.

About 45 seconds in you'll see it being passed by the UA Turbo. Combine it with the above photo it looks like if you're getting a Turbo, you've got to get a Flying Scotsman.

Also, if you did want to add sound, could you find/build an auxiliary tender liked they used on the U.S. trip.

Martin Z

[peteski]

One of the fellows at our club has a Dapool locomotive.
The problem with them is you can't take them apart. The shell is glued on.
He needed a replacement shell part and they ripped it off another loco with the glue still showing.

Rick

I picked up one of this models recently (had no time to take it apart yet).  I find it hard to believe that the shell is glued on permanently (but not out of the realm of possibilities)    I'll report my findings once I have a chance to spend some time on it.

[GhengisKong]

Being glued together is definitely a problem. Hatton's has responded to my questions and one I asked is if there is room for a sound decoder. Their answer is no, there is no room for a decoder and speaker, it has a 6 pin plug for the included decoder. It does appear to be a tender drive engine, so there might be room in the boiler but that could be a problem to access if it is glued on. Looks like I may have to pass on this loco.

I installed a Zimo MX-649 in my Dapol A4 'Mallard' and not many problems encountered. I did have to remove the false coal load to mount the decoder, but I did have several lumps of bitumen ready to use as a real coal load to cover up the decoder post install. I did what this guy did, but he did it with an MX-648:

http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Resource.php?L1=Guides&Item=DapolN-A4-Zimo

Also, the Scotsman's tender is the exact same as the A4's:
http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Resource.php?L1=Guides&Item=DapolN-A3-Zimo

[atsf3751]

Doesn't mention any glued parts in these two articles so it may be possible. The difference between 1:148 and 1:160 is not major especially when you don't have another engine like this to compare it to. May have to do it after all.

[peteski]

Doesn't mention any glued parts in these two articles so it may be possible. The difference between 1:148 and 1:160 is not major especially when you don't have another engine like this to compare it to. May have to do it after all.

It is glued on, and I took it apart. I'll post some photos and instructions later today.

[havingfuntoo]

Hey, wes_sutton, are you also known as Bingley Hall??

[wes_sutton]

Hey, wes_sutton, are you also known as Bingley Hall??

One and the same 

[GhengisKong]

Doesn't mention any glued parts in these two articles so it may be possible. The difference between 1:148 and 1:160 is not major especially when you don't have another engine like this to compare it to. May have to do it after all.

Is your intention to do some DCC work by removing the boiler shell, or mount a new boiler body?