Weekend Update 12/3/17

[Lemosteam]

Neat trucks and new to me so what's the link to the site for sales? - Bob Witt

@Cumbo2000 visit here.

[wm3798]

Step One - Lump of foam carved to get a general shape


Step Two:  Scribble some ideas with some scale measurements...


Step Three:  Put it into the design program to tighten up the details.


Step Four:  Paper mock up cut from scale printout of drawings.


Step Five:  Establish final footprint, survey the corners, and do the necessary site work.


Step Six:  Laminate another copy of the plans to styrene.  Trim to create a core for the finished model.


Step Seven: cut out all the fiddledy bits.


Step Eight: Test fit the parts to see what you've got.







Next step:  Take apart the test fit, strip off the paper drawings, and head to the paint shop.  More to come.

Lee

[narrowminded]

Lee, I like to see these project progressions.   I'll be interested in seeing what you do with the door entrance off the sidewalk.  I think I see what needs done but my inexperience in these matters gets my panties all bunched agonizing about getting proportions right, looking right, and executing cleanly.

[nscalbitz]

Lee, I like to see these project progressions.   I'll be interested in seeing what you do with the door entrance off the sidewalk.  I think I see what needs done but my inexperience in these matters gets my panties all bunched agonizing about getting proportions right, looking right, and executing cleanly.

And i don't see what loading doors are good for facing a distant, apparently sloping rail line are used for?

[wm3798]

Maybe the rail line was relocated?  The door is no longer in use, see... 



Happens all the time...  As my friend the German architect likes to say... "Eeetz for ze looks, yah?"

Lee

[peteski]

Maybe the rail line was relocated?  The door is no longer in use, see... 



Happens all the time...  As my friend the German architect likes to say... "Eeetz for ze looks, yah?"

Lee

Yes, I see similar warehouse and factory buildings in Manchester, NH. They even have larger loading doors. The track has been removed decades ago and the right of way became plain lawn or was paved over.

[sizemore]

@wm3798 sounds like a good article. 

The S.

[wm3798]

Already in progress... 

[OldEastRR]

I'm sorry you think this looks like building put together by a tornado. I spent quite a few hours on it, so that would be a disappointing result.
For what it's worth, there are no foundations attached to the upper floor, there is ONE outside door upstairs and it leads up to a catwalk that provides access to the roof and mechanical equipment, and the bays, structural columns, and other structural elements on the lower and upper floor line up vertically and laterally. As I already noted, I believe the problem with this building is the oversize window and skylight mullions, and I may yet decide to fix them in the future and maybe add some other details,  but at this point, I happen to like this structure and I'm moving on.
Thanks for your interest and comments.
Otto K.

If you like it, of course that's all that matters. You fixed the upper door problem nicely I see. As for the joint between floors in the future when stacking kits you might try cutting off anything that isn't perpendicular at the bottom edge of the wall of the upper floors. For this example, it's the long window sill-like cap that runs at the bottom of the kit walls. It makes a visual break between the two floors that keeps it from looking like a single structure. If you care to try, file or slice off that sill along part of a top floor short wall (on the side nobody will see), put it back in place and see what you think.
As for windows, Tichy makes some nice enginehouse windows that should fit or will by trimming them.

The rest of this advice is for anyone else who'd like to fool around with this kit. I tend to follow standard building design concepts when I modify or scratchbuild kits. Prototypical pilasters are built upward in a continuous column from foundation to roofline. Arches are usually only over doors and windows. If over the entire bay, only appear at the top of the bay. It would take some work to achieve that with this kit. The bottom floor would need the top part of the walls removed right where the pilasters end. The upper floor would need the base of the walls removed right at the bottom of the pilasters. Then once put together, the pilasters and brickwork are uninterrupted.

[OldEastRR]

Yes, I will check with GHQ and also Sylvan Scale Models for the decals that come with their Railway Express truck.

Where can I get a REA truck like that?

[OldEastRR]

Maybe the rail line was relocated?  The door is no longer in use, see... 
Lee

To that end, perhaps the rotted remains of a small freight platform bridging the space between doors and track. Just the uprights still there, some crossbeams, all the planking gone or just rotted pieces on the ground. On early railroads where trains were few or on some branches, sometimes locals parked on the main for as long as it took to unload a small shipment onto a dock. Once traffic in later years got heavy, spurs were mandatory for any extended offloading.

[dougnelson]

Where can I get a REA truck like that?

these truck cabs and chassis are from Rasputen:  https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=40518.0

I should note that Railway Express Agency had a vast variety of truck types and makes, so there are likely few wrong choices.  This was obviously before that day of fleet efficiencies.  Both GHQ and Sylvan Scale Models also make Railway Express delivery trucks in N scale.

[OldEastRR]

Yeah, I was wondering where you got the freight box....

[peteski]

To that end, perhaps the rotted remains of a small freight platform bridging the space between doors and track.

Often there was no platform. The cars would run so close to the building that they simply dropped a steel plate between the building and the car to bridge the gap.

[Cajonpassfan]

If you like it, of course that's all that matters. You fixed the upper door problem nicely I see. As for the joint between floors in the future when stacking kits you might try cutting off anything that isn't perpendicular at the bottom edge of the wall of the upper floors. For this example, it's the long window sill-like cap that runs at the bottom of the kit walls. It makes a visual break between the two floors that keeps it from looking like a single structure. If you care to try, file or slice off that sill along part of a top floor short wall (on the side nobody will see), put it back in place and see what you think.
As for windows, Tichy makes some nice enginehouse windows that should fit or will by trimming them.

The rest of this advice is for anyone else who'd like to fool around with this kit. I tend to follow standard building design concepts when I modify or scratchbuild kits. Prototypical pilasters are built upward in a continuous column from foundation to roofline. Arches are usually only over doors and windows. If over the entire bay, only appear at the top of the bay. It would take some work to achieve that with this kit. The bottom floor would need the top part of the walls removed right where the pilasters end. The upper floor would need the base of the walls removed right at the bottom of the pilasters. Then once put together, the pilasters and brickwork are uninterrupted.

Well @OldEastRR, we're just going to disagree on this, and that's okay. You are not required to like my opinion
There are plenty of examples of 19th century industrial and other architecture, like the two below, where a horizontal decorative element is placed between floors and around structural piers or pilasters to break up the vertical mass. They are called a belt course, or string course, or at least they were when I was in architecture school some 45 years ago. The vertical structural elements are of course continuous, and transfer the weight of the building through to its foundations.
The funny thing is, there will be another building, a wooden sanding tower in front of this one, and the offending "belt course" will mostly be hidden from view
Thanks for your interest  in my little project.
Otto K.

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