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atsf3751

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The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« on: November 01, 2017, 07:13:46 PM »
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I received these cars yesterday and I am somewhat puzzled. One car has the pedestals for 20' and 40' containers so no problem there. However the car labeled Mark V has no pedestals. It has a deck over the trucks and two small decks in the middle. Looking online shows me pictures of two 40' containers on the car with the center platform lined up with where a truck would be if the container were on a trailer. This seems unsafe to me. Would the container be stable this way? I have been led to believe that you had to support containers at the corners, nowhere else was strong enough. All my trains are packed away now so I do not have any containers to test with, but will that platform in the middle fit into the notch in the bottom of the container model? If not, how are they mounted.
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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 09:43:55 PM »
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Is there a bracket to catch the container?
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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 10:57:30 PM »
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The Flexi-Van cars were originally meant to haul only special Flexi-van containers (really trailers with detachable wheels).
I believe the cars with the pedestals for 20' and 40' standard containers represents a rebuild of the original cars. 

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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2017, 12:40:34 AM »
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George is right.
And if you remove the wheels and other undercarriage parts from a Trainworx Flexi-Van, it fits nicely onto the Mark V car.


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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2017, 02:43:39 AM »
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Thanks, I will have to see if I have any of those containers and order some if I don't.
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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 08:14:29 AM »
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OK, just for clarification.....

http://www.train-worx.com/16-7-flexi-van.pdf

http://www.train-worx.com/flexi-van-atsf.htm

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3310389

I think this is one of those cases where I get a 'thank you' because I spent an inordinate amount of time bashing one of N Scale Kits pewter Flexivan spines to an Ft65, including some of the most difficult metal-shape solder-ups I've ever done - the container frames are all brass.  And Trainworx car is admittedly probably more accurate as it started as a Mark V, but I guarantee mine is heavier!


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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 10:28:51 AM »
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I received these cars yesterday and I am somewhat puzzled. One car has the pedestals for 20' and 40' containers so no problem there. However the car labeled Mark V has no pedestals. It has a deck over the trucks and two small decks in the middle. Looking online shows me pictures of two 40' containers on the car with the center platform lined up with where a truck would be if the container were on a trailer. This seems unsafe to me. Would the container be stable this way? I have been led to believe that you had to support containers at the corners, nowhere else was strong enough. All my trains are packed away now so I do not have any containers to test with, but will that platform in the middle fit into the notch in the bottom of the container model? If not, how are they mounted.

The later modifications included standard container pedestals.  The Flexi-Vans had two mounting points, one at the rear of the trailer body on the pivoting turntable, and one at the king pin.

These cars offered by Trainworx have end turntables.  They rotated 90 degrees and a trailer was backed into position to slide onto the turntable.  Part of the procedure was to remove pins holding the highway wheel bogie to the van body, and allow the box to slide off the wheels and onto the turntable.

The van body was then rotated on the turntable, with the king pin locating into the smaller center brackets on the spine of the flatcar.

If you'd really like to dive in deep, I've uploaded a copy of the NYC Flexivan Loading Manual here:

http://cgwrr.com/FlexiVans/NYC/flexbook_handbook.pdf

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Re: The Trainworx Flexi-van cars confuse me some
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2017, 05:33:31 PM »
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It appears that perhaps the turntables on the Trainworx cars could be made rotate if ine wanted to stage a loading scene.   There's an extra 'truck pin' that seems to be holding them on, and upon which it could perhaps be rotated.   However, also note that said extra truck pin seems to be hilding on the entire end section of the deck, and those two plastic pins on either side of the coupler are keeping the turntable from rotating on the deck.  Might have to carefully disassemble and cut off those pins.