BNSF Mojave Sub

[C855B]

One and the same. I got it backwards - Rio Tinto bought U.S. Borax in 1968 and became Rio Tinto Borax, so I guess the location technically still is Boron. I always knew it as U.S. Borax in Boron, so I wasn't paying attention, evidently. Typical teenager.

[nkalanaga]

I didn't think anything of the history, just assumed it was a boron, or borax, mine, and you capitalized the element's name... 

"Rio Tinto" sounds Spanish, so it could very well have been a local name, predating the mining company.  Google Translate tried to tell me that "Rio Tinto" is Portuguese, and means "Rio Tinto".  I tried Spanish, with the same result.  Big help, even I know that "Rio" means "river".  I finally went to Mom's 54 year old Spanish dictionary.  "Tinto" can mean "tinted", "dyed", or "red".  I wonder if the company's name was taken from the local river, wherever they started, after it was polluted by mine waste?

[svedblen]

I didn't think anything of the history, just assumed it was a boron, or borax, mine, and you capitalized the element's name... 

"Rio Tinto" sounds Spanish, so it could very well have been a local name, predating the mining company.  Google Translate tried to tell me that "Rio Tinto" is Portuguese, and means "Rio Tinto".  I tried Spanish, with the same result.  Big help, even I know that "Rio" means "river".  I finally went to Mom's 54 year old Spanish dictionary.  "Tinto" can mean "tinted", "dyed", or "red".  I wonder if the company's name was taken from the local river, wherever they started, after it was polluted by mine waste?

Wikipedia, that endless source of information  , says that the company is named after the Rio Tinto river in Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Group
The borax mine is operated by the Borax division of the Rio Tinto Group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Borax_Mine

[svedblen]

Wikipedia, that endless source of information  , says that the company is named after the Rio Tinto river in Spain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Group
The borax mine is operated by the Borax division of the Rio Tinto Group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Tinto_Borax_Mine

Or is this a totally different mine? Not exactly in my backyard...so I might be totally off here

[jagged ben]

... "Tinto" can mean "tinted", "dyed", or "red".  I wonder if the company's name was taken from the local river, wherever they started, after it was polluted by mine waste?

 

[svedblen]

Not polluted by mining, but by nature itself:

...its deep reddish hue is due to iron dissolved in the water

The Spanish river "Tinto" that is.

[chuck geiger]

You know when you have thoughts, like this might not be the proto to model, this thread makes me want to do it more. Thanks. I know
the area pretty well and what I get on-line and from asshats, this is perfect.

[chuck geiger]

Looking into sage, it's a pain to model, but it has to be done, you can't have Scenic Express prairie or grass tufts used, except in areas
where it would grow. The Australian modeler I've mentioned and Soeberg used tufts. Need sage boys.

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=43082.0;attach=18218;image

[svedblen]

Looking into sage, it's a pain to model, but it has to be done, you can't have Scenic Express prairie or grass tufts used, except in areas
where it would grow. The Australian modeler I've mentioned and Soeberg used tufts. Need sage boys.

Scottl has already solved that problem for you 
https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=27858.msg546181#msg546181

[nkalanaga]

Lennart:  Makes sense.  We have springs here in eastern Kentucky with enough iron to leave deposits, and much of the groundwater will rust-stain pipes, fixtures, and laundry. 

So it really is the "Red", and "Tinted", river. 

[svedblen]

So it really is the "Red", and "Tinted", river.

Thread drift: Yes, "tinto" really means "red". Here in Sweden a generic Spanish red wine simply labelled "Vino Tinto" has periodically been a best seller. Probably due to it being cheap and affordable even for students  Shipped by tanker and bottled here. No kidding!



Sorry Chuck. Back to the original subject.

[tappertrainman]

I was looking at the satellite view of the complex - there are a lot of tracks, everywhere. They have (or had) a very interesting plant switcher:

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/23670/

BUR  NORTHERN

[chuck geiger]

Problems solved on what I was going to do with GP-9 from last layout. Borax switcher.

[chuck geiger]

Boron Local

http://www.railpictures.net/showimage.php?id=633507&key=4995322

[chuck geiger]

Rough first pass: Not sure on how to tie Mojave and Barstow together, not even sure that the peninsula is needed. This should be around the room, 11x10'. Wye at North Edwards, lead from Boron to borax plant, represented on back drop. Spur from Boron to chemical plant. Sidings in Jim Grey and Hinkley. Any ideas from the crew?