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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2017, 11:20:37 PM »
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That is weird - a "do not enter" signs instead of photos usually means that the URL is valid but there is a permission problem, like if the viewer does not have permission to view a photo. That is different than a regular "broken link" icon, or simply a blank space where the image would be, which usually shows up for malformed URL address.
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2017, 12:04:33 AM »
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Pictures?  What pictures ?

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2017, 12:08:17 AM »
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What's even more bizarre  is that my last post included a quote of Loren's post, and mirrored exactly the pics that were blank and ones that were fine. Going back to it now, they are all blank...whf :o :?
Well, now I see it's ALL blanks...
Frustrating stuff, hang in there Loren!
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2017, 12:43:30 AM »
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And, when I call up the source code for the page, and try to go to the image URL, I get a Google login page.  I don't think Google images and Railwire play well together...
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2017, 02:05:51 AM »
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Is he putting the pix on Google or TRW? I think there's a size limit for each image.. I had hours of endless frustration with Photobucket until they terminated themselves with me and now only use the TRW option for posting pix.

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2017, 05:38:42 PM »
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I hate picture hosting sites. It seems there are always roadblocks to actually using them intuitively.

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2017, 07:25:11 PM »
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Does anyone know if there is a setting on Google Photos (or anywhere else) that needs to be changed to allow my photos to be seen on computers besides my own? If so, how do I change it? I went to the Google photo site and explored, looking for such a setting but came up empty. Any ideas?

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2017, 08:24:33 PM »
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Lost? Did they take the tooling out drinking and leave it sitting on the bar ? I understand maybe breaking the tooling for one car but to lose the whole line ? I'm confused...

Randy

most likely they went to china.. they are notorious for stealing / loosing molds.. not to worry they will be avaiable from another vendor soon. that is if they were manufactured in China. you see they hold your molds hostage, now that they have most of the worlds molds and dies.

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2017, 03:48:06 PM »
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This is my latest attempt at posting photos on this site, using "shared" images this time and with ?jpg at the end of the image URL. Please - if anyone can see them, let me know, will you?

Here are some of my Santa Fe heavyweights including Rivarossi/Con-Cor, Micro-Trains, and Pecos River Brass. Most have GMM etched brass steps, stirrups, and other details added. The diaphragms are black rubber moldings made by Oriental Limited which I bought in bulk back in the 1990's.

The first photo shows the head end with engine 3751 in charge, pulling the Grand Canyon Limited with an an icing dock visible in the background.




Next is a Rivarosi baggage car. I lightly airbrushed Floquil's Grime and Mud onto the train's lower sides and ends to represent long travels through the desert.




These two cars are made by Pecos River Brass (left) and Rivarossi. The differences are considerable. Santa Fe had coaches and club cars that featured wide windows and very different roof equipment. The trucks were also of a unique design. All the cars on this train have weathering added as well as window "glass" and Micro-Scale decals for the PRB cars plus window shades and full interior detailing for all the cars.




This one is the Rivarossi combine, an actual ATSF prototype, shown facing backwards on the train. I re-oriented it properly after the photo shoot.




Pecos River Brass made this beautiful Coach Club car. PRB's cars are built in such a way that the end vestibules are sealed and inaccessible which is why no "glass" is visible in these areas.




This is the very car, the Pullman St. Croix that kindled my interest in N-scale. I was so impressed when I first saw one in the 1970's at an Orlando, FL hobby shop that I knew N-scale railroading would be in my future. I have two of them now. I didn't have the heart to weather these little gems.




This is the other one, bearing the new name of Centacre which came from a Micro-Scale decal sheet.




Here is a comparison shot of two Pullmans, the General Stoneman based on a Pecos River Brass model (left) and a Rivarossi 12-1 named Isaac Newton on the right. Notice the differences in height at the roofline even though the bottom edges of the bodies are closely matched. This difference is why I don't run the PRB Pullmans with the rest of my cars. All my other PRB Pullmans exhibit this same characteristic. Can anyone give an explanation for this difference?




Here we see one of the magnificent Micro-Trains Pullmans, the Red Oak. These models truly capture the look of those classic passenger cars. My interest in these older designs stems from when I was a teenager reading Model Railroader back in the 1950's and seeing those beautiful ads for the Walthers craftsmen kits for models like this one.




Rivarossi's diner model is a near perfect replica of the Santa Fe prototype. I added full interior detailing including patrons, wait staff, and flower vases on the tables.




Pecos River Brass did a wonderful job on this Parlor Club car. I've had to apply light oil to the wheel bearings to allow these relatively heavy cars to roll easily.




Micro-Trains' beautiful Pullman "Moose Lake" displays the faired-in air conditioning duct on the roof that gives these cars their distinctive look. The only Rivarossi car that featured such a duct was their observation car.




Here's Rivarossi's open platform observation car with GMM etched brass stirrups, rear steps, and platform railing. I used my computer and printer to make the venetian blinds. This model was built back in the early 1990's before my GMM etched brass venetian blinds were available. The GMM etched brass blinds also work well and offer a see-through effect. Several years after I did the interior work on this car, I added the newly available GMM etched brass heavyweight passenger car steps, stirrups, and handrail to finish the job.




Finally, this close-up shot shows the etched brass railing and the lighted tail sign made by Tomar products that displays the train's name when on: Grand Canyon Limited. I really wish that Kato-style trucks and lighting systems were available for these wonderful old classic passenger cars. My more modern passenger trains are all equipped with Kato's track-powered lighting system and I love them. I'm aware of battery-powered lights but am not interested in them because of the constant added cost of buying replacement batteries, not to mention having to handle and disassemble each car to replace them. For my needs, Kato's well-thought-out system is the best I've seen to date.



If anyone can see these images, please post your response so I can see if I'm having any success, will you? Thanks!
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2017, 03:49:51 PM »
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I see all the photos and all of your wonderful models! And that locomotive sure doesn't look  like a Bachmann Northern.
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2017, 04:02:47 PM »
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I see all the photos and all of your wonderful models! And that locomotive sure doesn't look  like a Bachmann Northern.
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Outstanding! We're off to the races! Thanks, Pete.

I hope others are able to see them, too. Let's see what happens.

Glad you liked my "Bachmann" Northern. I actually did rebuild one of those into a super detailed model back in the 1990s complete with all wheel tender pick-up, brass-level details on the entire model, and a flywheel on the motor. I ran the wheels off of it at the Belmont Shore Lines club layout for several years and then gave it away to a VERY appreciative young model railroader at a train show after watching him and his dad drool over it for about 30 minutes. I'd already bought a brass version to replace it and I thought this intelligent and motivated young man could use some inspiration into getting serious about the hobby.

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2017, 04:07:11 PM »
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Looking good here too.

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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2017, 04:20:13 PM »
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Outstanding! We're off to the races! Thanks, Pete.

I hope others are able to see them, too. Let's see what happens.

Glad you liked my "Bachmann" Northern. I actually did rebuild one of those into a super detailed model back in the 1990s complete with all wheel tender pick-up, brass-level details on the entire model, and a flywheel on the motor. I ran the wheels off of it at the Belmont Shore Lines club layout for several years and then gave it away to a VERY appreciative young model railroader at a train show after watching him and his dad drool over it for about 30 minutes. I'd already bought a brass version to replace it and I thought this intelligent and motivated young man could use some inspiration into getting serious about the hobby.
I can see all the photos also. That story is awesome!  My nephew received some n scale cars from Exactrail after writing a report for school about a local business (they're both in the Provo area of Utah.) Since receiving them he's been even more hooked on n scale and started building a shelf layout.  Just think what your generosity started for that father and son
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2017, 04:31:42 PM »
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I see all your photos and read the story. Wow on both counts!
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Re: Rivarossi Heavyweights
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2017, 05:13:25 PM »
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Loren, those are beautiful cars.  One of my points to start this thread is that the Rivarossi heavyweights, if properly detailed, could be made into pretty good models, especially if you are modeling Santa Fe.  Those of us that modeled passenger trains prior to the MicroTrains heavyweights, relied on these cars.  No longer to be produced, but with a 1,000 year supply available on the secondary market.