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[RSWController]

Is that a 48' Gunderson all-purpose husky stack in the background next to the GP39-2? Has that been announced previously?

[GaryHinshaw]

Is that a 48' Gunderson all-purpose husky stack in the background next to the GP39-2? Has that been announced previously?

It's a modern 40' rebuild of a 48' well car, so c. ~2010+.  It was announced earlier this summer:

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=42217.msg530830#msg530830

It looks nice.

[CBQ Fan]

No mention of these!

Union Pacific early water tender set. Welded seams, handbrake housing with wheel and chain, uncoupling levers, train line hoses, brake beam details, 36” metal wheels, directional lighting, and Type E couplers. $69.99. Rivet Counter line. ScaleTrains.com Inc., 844-987-2467, www.scaletrains.com

Union Pacific steam excursion water tender set. UPP no. 809 (Jim Adams) and UPP no. 814 (Joe Jordan). Commonwealth three-axle trucks, brake beam detail, different weld seam locations and riveted end access plates for each tender, and roof equipment boxes. Number 809 has American flag printed on separate metal placard. $69.99. Rivet Counter line. ScaleTrains.com Inc., 844-987-2467, www.scaletrains.com

Union Pacific tenders. 24C gas-turbine electric tender (Union Pacific steam excursion), 23C fuel tender (unnumbered), and 24C fuel tender (unnumbered). Models feature 36” machined metal wheels, plastic semi-scale Type E couplers, and directional lighting. $37.99 each. Rivet Counter line. ScaleTrains.com Inc., 844-987-2467, www.scaletrains.com

[RSWController]

Ok gotcha. Seeing the trailer hitches threw me off. Didn't know the prototypes were considered all purpose units.

[coldriver]

The GP39-2 will be remembered as my least favorite loco of all time - Burlington Northern's order of forty GP39-2s in 1981 retired all the awesome F's and Alcos which had been the mainstay of BN local power in the PNW through the 70's.  But I did have a few memorable GP39-2 encounters over the years including BN 2713 wearing Cascade Green high in the Cascades at Berne, WA on June 1, 1991.   

911521 by Dean Ferris, on Flickr

[cjm413]

Me too!...Maybe at least one in lightning strips, if it does come in the correct Phase. To get the older phase GP39-2 a GP38 could probably provide the parts, I'm thinking just splice the rear end on..

 ..

 Yes, not all GP38 and 38-2s had the smaller fuel tank, but most did!..Some had even smaller than 2000 gal. as well, Milwaukee Road I believe...

The late Phase II GP39-2 shown is the picture is going to be pretty much useless for a Phase I GP39-2.

Note the standard anticlimber, 88" short hood vs. 81" short hood, gap between the cab and clean air room (and different doors as a result), exhaust silencer, etc.

Phase 1a GP38-2 with dynamic brakes and turbocharger from an early Phase II GP40-2 would be a closer match.

http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/NLocomotives/ngp382/0508/47649_TQ.jpg

[wcfn100]

That's a Pennsy G38 ore car from Bachmann, and item #18655, the black PRR scheme, appears to be accurate.

Number series is for a G39 hopper, but looks more like the g38, but that doesn't really matter as it doesn't represent the car well at all.  It's the same mess as all their offerings (including the tank car).  The main point being the ribs.  It doesn't have the two ribs that extend down below the sill, and they put ribs out at the ends of the car instead of between the ribs in the center.  Also some of the ribs aren't the same size as they should be.   No point in even getting into any real detail. 



Jason

[cjm413]

I'm waiting for the D&H Reading "masking tape number" scheme.

The late Phase II GP39-2 in the photo would be a good starting point for a CR Phase IIc GP40-2

http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/Images/CR-3398-at-Altoona-PA-in-1993

[cjm413]

Number series is for a G39 hopper, but looks more like the g38, but that doesn't really matter as it doesn't represent the car well at all.  It's the same mess as all their offerings (including the tank car).  The main point being the ribs.  It doesn't have the two ribs that extend down below the sill, and they put ribs out at the ends of the car instead of between the ribs in the center.  Also some of the ribs aren't the same size as they should be.   No point in even getting into any real detail. 



Jason

UP prototype?


http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3841025

[wcfn100]

UP prototype?

Yeah, that's much better thanks.   I'll have to look closer later.

Jason

[unittrain]

Looking at the Botchman photo up close it looks like they got G39 on the car.  Wow talk about doing no research at all, also 2 of the ribs are missing and it has horizontal end stiffeners.

[C855B]

UP prototype?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3841025

Wow... sure looks like it. Keenbrook. Hmm. Would like to know what customer and mine this was servicing. Totally not familiar with this car and that's where I used to live and was actively railfanning at the time. Never saw a UP ore train through Cajon. Coal trains for Kaiser service using H-100-x hoppers and "K"-marked cabooses, yes, but never ore.

The only mill in SoCal I was aware of that processed raw ore was Kaiser Steel in Fontana (north of Bloomington, i.e., West Colton). The mill was served by Santa Fe (2nd District) and possibly the SP (I don't recall a spur from the SP mainline, though), and the ore was from Eagle Mountain via the SP using SP ore cars. In so many words, the picture of the lone UP ore car in Cajon makes zero sense to me.

Bachmann's execution is hamfisted, anyway. The short ladder is missing a rung, and where is the underbody detail? I expect just a little more attention to the fine points for $33, not something I have to re-detail.

[Missaberoad]

Looking at the Botchman photo up close it looks like they got G39 on the car.  Wow talk about doing no research at all, also 2 of the ribs are missing and it has horizontal end stiffeners.

I refer you to the post two above yours 

UP prototype?
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3841025

Yes and pretty close if not a crude representation...

I'm a sucker for ore cars and these are pretty close to some of the cars Reserve Mining owned, mind you they are so crude I could probably build my own and wind up with something just as good...

[wcfn100]

It would appear that the Bachmann car is a straight copy of the HO RTR 26' Tapered/Low Side Ore Car. A ton of detail issues, but wouldn't probably stand out too bad.

The UP car is much easier to find pictures in MOW service.

http://www.railcarphotos.com/Search.php?SearchRRClass=G-100-13&Search=Search

(might need to have a login)


Jason

[C855B]

...The UP car is much easier to find pictures in MOW service. ...

Apparently. But the fact that most of the "findable" pics are on railcarphotos plays into that perception, too. Anything of historical significance predating digital imaging is rare since they prioritize photo quality over everything else - the Stan Lytle legacy, basically. I've found it not an especially good reference for <1990 modeling, but there are some gems hidden there if you look hard enough.

There was a good article in The Streamliner (UPHS magazine), 2009 winter issue, about the Atlantic City ore service. The DM&IR-like 70T cars served that line and were replaced with 100T cars ~1965 that were stretched versions of the same design. So far I am unable to find any UPHS material documenting the Bachmann prototype. Since I'm interested in the ore trains and I've run into this brick wall multiple times, it sounds like a research project might be in order for a Streamliner article. I'm really curious about those [Bachmann prototype] cars now... where did they run, and why is in-service documentation so scarce?