Another GG1

[peteski]

Having now owned both steam and diesels from BLI I have to say I find it unlikely their GG1 will outperform the Kato.  I'm not a huge fan of the high startup voltage for the BLI decoder.  I've fiddled with CVs and made it somewhat better, but that plus the extra wide wheel treads in my BLI stuff really makes me wonder if it's possible they can even match Kato let alone beat it.  The Kato G is quite the machine.

And while it seems weird to say it, Bachmann GG1 is also pretty good model (both in level of detail and in running quality).  So BLI, read my lips: we really don't need another GG1.

[Dave V]

And while it seems weird to say it, Bachmann GG1 is also pretty good model (both in level of detail and in running quality).  So BLI, read my lips: we really don't need another GG1.

Sh!t, Pete, we seem to be agreeing on stuff these days!

[chicken45]

Maybe Scale Trains is gonna do one too! Maybe we can start a gofundme for them.

Kidding aside, I wonder if any of these companies would consider a kickstarter for something else.
Might be tough since most of them are old folks. Not cool old folks like @tom mann or @John. I'm talking about the square old folks like those not on the internet, daddy-o.

[peteski]

And while it seems weird to say it, Bachmann GG1 is also pretty good model (both in level of detail and in running quality).  So BLI, read my lips: we really don't need another GG1.

Sh!t, Pete, we seem to be agreeing on stuff these days!

Crap!  I don't know what is going on!     
Would adding "But it is not a Kato." to my earlier statement make it more like what you expected? 

But I can't lie - some of Bachmann's GG1 details are better than Kato (pantographs are one example).

[Dave V]

Sh!t, Pete, we seem to be agreeing on stuff these days!


Crap!  I don't know what is going on!     
Would adding "But it is not a Kato." to my earlier statement make it more like what you expected? 

But I can't lie - some of Bachmann's GG1 details are better than Kato (pantographs are one example).

It might...but yeah, I'm pretty biased toward the Kato G because it runs like...a Kato.

[peteski]

It might...but yeah, I'm pretty biased toward the Kato G because it runs like...a Kato.

You're killin' me - we are in agreement again! 

[nkalanaga]

Dr. Hotballs:  I assume you have "Cross Continent Electrics", a small book by Bert Pennypacker?  Besides the GN-PRR connections, it also has a little bit, including a drawing, of the FF1.

[Dave V]

Dr. Hotballs:  I assume you have "Cross Continent Electrics", a small book by Bert Pennypacker?  Besides the GN-PRR connections, it also has a little bit, including a drawing, of the FF1.

That one I don't have.

[Blackout]

If they are stuck on a pennsy trip why not the monster hippo I1?

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[Altoona]

I can second that.

[nkalanaga]

Dr. Hotballs:  It was published by NJ International, in 1994, so I doubt that they would still have a copy.  It might be worth checking, though, just in case.

I got it for the GN portion, and was surprised to see that they had tested a PRR locomotive.  None of my GN books mentioned that...

[Snark45]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cross-Continent-ELECTRICS-The-Pennsylvania-Great-Northern-Connections-/302164819737?hash=item465a6d3f19:g:0C4AAOSw2xRYT~tO

Dr. Hotballs:   Today on Ebay for $19.99 - appears new (there's another copy for sale at $26.95)

BTW - I have nothing to do with this item or its seller.   Harry

[eric220]

If they are stuck on a pennsy trip why not the monster hippo I1?

This. So much this. I'll take several, even if my available running real estate is somewhat in question.

[cjm413]

CJM413:  A MILW GG-1 looks silly, and one in GN paint wouldn't look much better, but the GN COULD have run it.  The electrical systems were the same, and the GN did test the E2b.  It worked, but wasn't practical, because, like most PRR electrics, it was designed for speed on relatively flat track.  The GN needed tractive effort on grades and curves, where speed wasn't an issue.

The Y-1/FF2 had the same problem on the PRR.  It was too slow, too heavy, and too wide, so spent its short time there in helper service east of Harrisburg.

For what it's worth, the MILW could have used the GN's electrics, even though they were AC, and the MILW used DC.  All they would have had to do was change the motor-generator sets and they'd have had excellent motors for the Cascades and Rockies.

Glacier Goat-1?

[draskouasshat]

If they are stuck on a pennsy trip why not the monster hippo I1?

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For petes sake,  NO MORE PENNSY!!!!!!!!!!