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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #150 on: July 01, 2017, 09:57:15 PM »
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OK, well, here's where I'm at with mine.    It's running and pulling cars anyway.





Definitely don't have any problems with space here.   I'll do a video if I get a chance.

We're pretty close on dimensions, I came up with 31 feet when I resized it and built it as such - using the known wheelbase of the HT-C truck as the guide dimension for scaling.   I resized the photo to HO size and use an HO ruler when I'm doing stuff like this.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #151 on: July 07, 2017, 06:07:51 PM »
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Today I put a gearhead on a Kato chassis and took pics:

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #152 on: July 08, 2017, 01:56:35 PM »
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Great video work.

Chris, now that you've done this you'll never a) look at Kato chassis the same way again  b) pay for a Faulhauber gearmotor either.

The only thing I saw in your video that baffled me was that the Gizmoszone screws didn't fit the Kato case.  I never had that problem, and I've probably done this...hmmm....30 times now on various builds.

This also works on the tender drives for Atlas 2-6-0 builds, all one-truck power Tomytec chassis builds, all the Kato 11-105's, the TP56 that I'm doing now...   It's really become my go-to motor for a single-shaft power source.

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #153 on: July 08, 2017, 02:34:55 PM »
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I've done it twice and the screws didn't fit either time  :?  I was wondering if the Kato holes were even threaded at all.

Even in the one photo I took of both motors it looks like the Kato holes aren't threaded.


Maybe they can self tab into there but after a few seconds of trying I just used the tape.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #154 on: July 14, 2017, 01:31:10 PM »
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Was out of the country last week…  but this little guy made me think of this thread:



It is a Swiss meter gauge engine used for switching in Zermatt.

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #155 on: July 14, 2017, 03:09:24 PM »
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I love it. 

I hope I have some motors waiting on me Mon.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #156 on: July 14, 2017, 03:34:48 PM »
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And don't forget about the GMD GMDH-3.

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #157 on: July 15, 2017, 01:39:54 AM »
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I wonder why the odd roof on the Swiss locomotive?

And I assume the GMDH-3 was designed by someone in the auto industry?  That is one strange looking switcher.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #158 on: July 15, 2017, 01:47:08 AM »
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And I assume the GMDH-3 was designed by someone in the auto industry?  That is one strange looking switcher.

I think it's a Dodge. 8)
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #159 on: July 15, 2017, 01:55:24 AM »
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Oh my gosh guys... think "Aerotrain"! That's GM 1950s design through-and-through! Here's a pic of the 4-axle 600 HP version:

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #161 on: July 15, 2017, 11:31:28 AM »
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The GMD switcher reminds me a little of a Krauss-Maffei.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #162 on: July 15, 2017, 01:30:29 PM »
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBB-CFF-FFS_Em_3/3

http://www.bahnbilder.de/name/galerie/kategorie/schweiz~dieselloks~em-33-raco/digitalfotografie/72.html

Still don't know what is on the roof.

The model shown is a Gotthard Bahn MGB Gm 3/3 (meter gauge) not a SBB Em 3/3 (standard gauge).

On the cab roof are the silencer / mufflers. This "ugly" looking hood must be an "upgrade" for even more noise reduction.

http://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/mgb-exbvz-gm-33-118735.jpg 

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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #163 on: July 15, 2017, 02:41:08 PM »
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Jane:  Thank you.  That would also explain all of the holes in the cover - ventilation.  And thank you for the site - I'm going to have to go through that to see what I can find.

I'm not familiar with the MGB equipment.  My newest sources are from the 1980s, when it was still the BVZ and FO.  I do keep an eye on the RhB, although it's mostly "digital railfanning", but the MGB seems to get much less attention online.
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Re: The TP56 Kitbash thread N scale
« Reply #164 on: July 15, 2017, 10:06:32 PM »
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Well, I'm back after 3 weeks of work out of town and 2 weeks vacation.

And when I got home today, I had two packages of motors from Asia waiting on me.
And while 2 orders from overseas took a while.... man, I think I have finally hit on success.

Just a reminder......

My goal was to get a motor with a longer shaft so that I could place the worm on the motor shaft and keep the truck gear tower more or less in tact.

Here they are.  The photos ended up being a little deceptive (but in a good way!).  Remember, they only cost about a buck each.

Here is the first. Mitsumi R14.  It has a 10mm long shaft.  I didn't think that would be long enough and have the truck parts be stock, but if some of the plastic of the worm cover were trimmed, these would work.   The body is the same overall dimensions as the Kato 11-105 motor-- just a bit longer.




And here is the other.  a K20 motor with a slightly longer shaft.
And THIS is the one where the photo is deceptive.
As you can see below, these two photos show motors that are about the same size.




But they are NOT the same size.   The K20 motor is MUCH smaller.  Also, where the other two motors have aluminium cases, this one feels like steel.

Here are all three to compare.
Kato critter motor on left.
Mitsumi R14 in middle
and K20 on right.    The K20 is not as tall.




And, it is not as wide.  It is thinner.  And THAT is a plus!



I did not even try the R14 motor with the shorter shaft (requiring worm cover to be trimmed) and went straight for the K20.

I took the worm off the Kato critter motor.   I then reamed it out as was suggested.   I used a #61 Mascot drill bit.  A #60 might have been better.   But using the 61, I was able to get the worm to press fit onto the shaft without adhesive (that will come later).

I placed the worm and bearings at the very end of the shaft.




That left me JUST enough room to keep the worm cover as-is!  Yay!




I carefully assembled everything and wired it up.   It did run, but of course was noisy since the motor is not othetwise secure and spins and vibrates.




Now we get to the amazing part.  The motor is the SAME width as the geartower!




So I just quickly got some styrene strip and superglued it to the motor and the geartower.







And it is now running on my layout beautifully.

Nice and smooth and quiet.

Remember, this is a 6 volt motor.  So.....
Top power supply voltage (12 vt) could burn it out.
And even those 10 volt square wave pulses were in danger of heating up the motor.

But while on vacation, I found an old MRC Tech II Railmaster 2400 for 8 bucks.
I had been wanting one of these since you can turn pulses OFF.

So running on no pulses, at 20-25% throttle, this TP56 chassis now runs wonderfully.
And the motor is cool.

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