Other cars with Allied Full-Cushion Trucks

[OldEastRR]

Did any other prototype cars or railroads use these trucks? Or were they only on the troop cars?

[Point353]

http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/sfr53.jpg

[cjm413]

http://www.snowcrest.net/photobob/sfr53.jpg

There were several other boxcars in express service that had Allied trucks before they were banned

[Point353]

There were several other boxcars in express service that had Allied trucks before they were banned

Can you post a link to any prototype photos of those other cars?

[wcfn100]

Jason

[Point353]

http://www.protocraft.com/images/723.jpg

[OldEastRR]

Cool! I'm changing the troop cars into baggage and using express trucks, was wondering if I could put the Allied ones somewhere. So when were the Allied trucks banned?

[Missaberoad]

Cool! I'm changing the troop cars into baggage and using express trucks, was wondering if I could put the Allied ones somewhere. So when were the Allied trucks banned?

They were banned from Interchange in 1955, but since most were used under Baggage and express cars that didn't venture off line their era can be much later...

[nkalanaga]

They've always reminded me of some of the European bogies, with the individually sprung journal boxes rather than sprung bolsters. 

I tried Googling them, but couldn't find any history.  Probably used the wrong keywords.

[jmlaboda]

They were banned from Interchange in 1955, but since most were used under Baggage and express cars that didn't venture off line their era can be much later...

It is incorrect to think that baggage and express cars didn't venture off line, that was one of the very reasons so many cars carried Railway Express Agency lettering on their side... because they did travel off line very, very often.  Given that they were banned because they were being found to cause derailments I seriously doubt that railroads kept them in such service beyond 1955... most found by that date were relegated to cars in MofW service where the speeds were considerably less and the risk also so.

[cjm413]

BAR left them on their converted "buggies"

[chessie system fan]

I recall seeing some under Rock Island express boxcars.

[Missaberoad]

It is incorrect to think that baggage and express cars didn't venture off line, that was one of the very reasons so many cars carried Railway Express Agency lettering on their side... because they did travel off line very, very often.  Given that they were banned because they were being found to cause derailments I seriously doubt that railroads kept them in such service beyond 1955... most found by that date were relegated to cars in MofW service where the speeds were considerably less and the risk also so.

It was an unintentionally misleading statement on my part... I shouldn't have implied that all express cars were exclusively on line cars.

However some were (or in exclusive pool arangements) and were not subject to the scrutiny of interchange rules. CP & Soo line both used wooden truss rod cars well into the 1960s and at least CB&Q and B&O had cars with Allied full cushion trucks well past the 1955 ban date...

[jmlaboda]

I recall seeing some under Rock Island express boxcars.

At least later in their career they used a 70T Roller Bearing truck that had a shock absorber between the springs on the outside of the truck...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/85864030@N07/14857934016

CP & Soo line both used wooden truss rod cars well into the 1960s and at least CB&Q and B&O had cars with Allied full cushion trucks well past the 1955 ban date...

Photos seem to suggest that the "Q" stopped using them after 1950 (photos show Roller Bearing trucks similar to what RI used).  Shots of B&O cars having them into retirement can be found, when the cars were reassigned to MofW service, though more modern shots (early-70s) shows other trucks in use.

[Missaberoad]

Photos seem to suggest that the "Q" stopped using them after 1950 (photos show Roller Bearing trucks similar to what RI used).  Shots of B&O cars having them into retirement can be found, when the cars were reassigned to MofW service, though more modern shots (early-70s) shows other trucks in use.

I digress to your knowledge on the subject... I did see a reference to PRR allowing Allied trucks from CB&Q & B&O Post ban due to them having modifications but that doesn't necessarily mean they were prevalent.