Pennsylvania Railroad Juniata Division 2.0

[Dave V]

Is there a reason you draw the left side at 9' when you have like 10.5'?  Extra foot in staging is a lot.

Was thinking "manageable chunks" to get in/out of the room, but I could probably extend that some, yeah.  Good call.

[Chris333]

Two 5.2' sections 

[MichaelWinicki]

In the 9x9 footprint I came up with this, although I'm not super-thrilled by the visual proximity of Altoona and Lewistown.

I'm not feeling it, but it's not mine! LOL!

-Hardly any switching possibilities... But again switching isn't everyone's cup of tea!

-Man that round-house engine servicing area is a space hog... I get the wanting to show off the loco's

[amato1969]

I like the updated plan without staging-behind-the-backdrop.  I have that situation on my dogbone layout, and it's a PITA to keep clean, etc.

  Frank

[Lemosteam]

Needs. Crossovers.     

[Dave V]

Needs. Crossovers.     

Yeah.  It does.  Oops.   

[wcfn100]

I don't like it.  I think you can get more 4 track operations in that space.  And going through my memory banks, the constant about a new layout I can remember is 4 tracks and try and get some catenary.  Hopefully you can post the room dimensions because 4-8 track loops do eat up a lot of space.  And maybe it can't be done, but I think a better effort is in order.

And quit talking to Ed.  He's a minimalist.  He appreciates where a track was but is no longer, and you want more tracks.   


Jason

[MichaelWinicki]

I don't like it.  I think you can get more 4 track operations in that space.  And going through my memory banks, the constant about a new layout I can remember is 4 tracks and try and get some catenary.  Hopefully you can post the room dimensions because 4-8 track loops do eat up a lot of space.  And maybe it can't be done, but I think a better effort is in order.

And quit talking to Ed.  He's a minimalist.  He appreciates where a track was but is no longer, and you want more tracks.   


Jason

I agree.

Yeah, it's capable of running more trains (good thing) but operationally it offers less than the current JD IMO.

Yep that's why Ed's a CR guy... Conrail's quest was having lots of ghost trackage.

[davefoxx]

And quit talking to Ed.  He's a minimalist.

Ed's reforming.  He even has benchwork now!   

DFF

[OldEastRR]

4 tracks, 4 tracks, 4 tracks. Dave if you don't get in a decent-sized segment of 4-track main on this you know you're going to hate the new layout within 6 months. For a guy who's been mooning over having a 4-track main on the JD for forever, I think you had best put that as highest priority for this layout, outranking everything else: switching, roundhouse, staging, space restrictions, whatever.  Don't tell me you can't make a scenic section with a 4 track main!!!
As for the roundhouse -- why not an attachable section? You can set it up when you want to run steamers and take it down after 1957. TT/roundhouse is the easiest module section to make because all of the action is on the module w/ minimum track connections to the main layout - and it's compact. If your layout's high enough, you might even be able to make it a fold down and swing up under (the layout) section.
The vignettes is a good idea. Don't always need flat backdrop to divide two scenes: use a wide river, a 4-lane highway bridge, large industry, or some like scenic element.

[Dave V]

What happens when the four tracks come together...  8 track main?

 

Guys, guys...  If you're reading the words that go along with the pictures I've explained that the idea of operating 4 independent mains by myself is starting to seem overwhelming.

You're trying to help, I know...but I think this thread was over before it started.  Ugh.  So many things in life are clear for me but this isn't.

I still really don't want to bleed all over that far side of the room where the Midland is and I think a 10 x 10 footprint is all I want to commit to...it'd still be hands-down the largest layout I've ever built.

And, the PRR through Lancaster County was 2-track...both the main and the A&S lines...not 4.

[seusscaboose]

Ed's reforming.  He even has benchwork now!   

DFF

yeah

but still no ballast

[OldEastRR]

The illusion of 4 tracks, like you have in your original drawing. Just make the part longer where the double track wishbone runs together .

[Ed Kapuscinski]

yeah

but still no ballast

Bullshit.

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[jpec]

yeah

but still no ballast

Yes he does...it might not be glued down but he does...

JP