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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #225 on: November 13, 2016, 12:16:03 AM »
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I for one just got a soft off . :RUEffinKiddingMe:


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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #226 on: November 13, 2016, 12:32:37 AM »
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I for one just got a soft off . :RUEffinKiddingMe:



lol!   :D
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #227 on: November 13, 2016, 12:41:30 AM »
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I for one just got a soft off . :RUEffinKiddingMe:

I think there's pills for that now  :trollface:
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #228 on: November 13, 2016, 12:51:32 AM »
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The difference between the NE5 and the 6 is primarily the side panels? Is there anything else of major spotting difference?

They are two distinctly different prototypes built to the same requirements.  The NE-5 is Pullman-Standard, the NE-6 is International.  The differences are too many to list.  You can compare photos of the two for reference.
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #229 on: November 13, 2016, 12:53:20 AM »
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The 'why not' is that every factory or modeler painted CGW NE-5 in history has had black running boards even though the clearest photo 'evidence' says that's not the case for all schemes.  The problem is there's not a smoking gun type photo to change the establishment, just a bunch up ground up shots showing the ends and corner.

Atlas will deco the CGW models properly if you supply them with documentation that backs up your assessment.
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #230 on: November 13, 2016, 02:40:04 AM »
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Atlas will deco the CGW models properly if you supply them with documentation that backs up your assessment.

We'll know if that's true based on whether the MN&S hopper gets fixed.  That at least I can say I have "proof".  The caboose I'll just paint as I see fit and probably won't say anything if they go with the black.  I'm just glad they are making it and I don't have to spend any more money printing my shell to continual disappointment.  :)


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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #231 on: November 13, 2016, 03:29:53 AM »
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So now that you are happy. The world needs a Dunmore caboose  :lol:

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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #232 on: November 13, 2016, 07:00:56 AM »
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #233 on: November 13, 2016, 08:23:25 AM »
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I was hoping for a more substantial announcement. Theses are nice but seem more like filler items to accompany a bigger item or two. 
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #234 on: November 13, 2016, 08:26:59 AM »
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Didn't CSX inherit some of these cabeese from Conrail?
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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #235 on: November 13, 2016, 08:57:14 AM »
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The only shot I posted that shows the roofwalk having any black for sure is post merger.  All the others are body color to me.   I've got several more examples I can't post that show the exact same thing, no black visible at all.  Someday a definitive shot will hopefully show up.

You get it now Bryan?  :)


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To be fair, you had one photo up when I hit reply, and added more.  :)

Anyway, I'm not trying to tell you you're not seeing color variations. I just think you're interpreting wrong.

Some have a clear demarcation. Some don't. Depends who was painting and under what deadline. What you're interpreting as maroon showing in red cabooses could certainly be red overspray on black. Or the other way around if they did the roofs last.

Think of how much work it would be to mask and paint around a mesh running board. Why would they do body color all the way? That's the part I can't rationalize.

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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #236 on: November 13, 2016, 12:48:06 PM »
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Think of how much work it would be to mask and paint around a mesh running board. Why would they do body color all the way? That's the part I can't rationalize.

Well my original statement was regarding all schemes just getting black running board and this conversation as become pretty focused on the final red scheme which probably will have the most variation of all.  There's a shot of 600 in the MS book in Maroon paint that leaves almost no doubt to the entire RB being body color.

To be clear, I do believe some had just red ends.  I also believe some were all black (mostly the couple that had the striped scheme before the maroon).

Here's what it generally comes down to for me.  Here's a shot of 605:



It's like you've described and like the one shot I posted.  It's pretty clear the ends are red but the rest is black.  What I see and what I put the most stock into is that the platforms are all black.  No red.  No overspray.  Black.  If I see black platforms, then I'm good.  But when the platforms are body color, my first reaction will that the running board is also body color unless there's something to show otherwise.

So a shot like this:



I don't know how anyone would think that has a black RB. 

Regardless, enough of me polluting this thread.  When these come out maybe I'll start a fresh one.  Or maybe a top down shot in good lighting of a clean caboose will finally come about... Nah, that's be too easy.  :P

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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #237 on: November 13, 2016, 01:34:39 PM »
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We'll know if that's true based on whether the MN&S hopper gets fixed.  That at least I can say I have "proof".  The caboose I'll just paint as I see fit and probably won't say anything if they go with the black.  I'm just glad they are making it and I don't have to spend any more money printing my shell to continual disappointment.  :)

Been there, done that.  :facepalm:

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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #238 on: November 13, 2016, 11:02:13 PM »
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I know it doesn't hit many of you, but an NE-5 for me is as big as the FVM RIb Side caboose was for Milwaukee modelers.  The CGW had 25 of these and was the staple of the caboose fleet.  There are at least 12-15 paint schemes just between the CGW and CNW (merger).  I'm in for 5-6 undecs but will be watching the artwork closely to hopefully get things as correct as possible even though I know I'll never convince them to not paint all the CGW running boards black.  :|


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Re: Atlas surprise coming at Trainfest
« Reply #239 on: November 13, 2016, 11:14:57 PM »
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CGW(TF?) Proto-foobie:

http://www.w0bsh.com/site/photos/CGW_20070331/CGWCaboose03.jpg

 :ashat: :facepalm:

Yeah, that's at Elizabeth IL in front of an actual CGW depot.  Hopefully they can get an actual CGW caboose someday.




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