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MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« on: September 10, 2016, 01:41:35 PM »
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Just picked up a CB&Q 40' hy cube boxcar  8) I have several of these hy cubes from MT I know the roof has been sighted as being peaked when it should be flat however I see on Tangents site that they in fact have a "slightly peaked roof" So the roof is ok I guess according to tangent  http://www.tangentscalemodels.com/pullman-standard-ps-1-40-mini-hy-cube-boxcar-2/  it states this just below the picture of the CB&Q model.
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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 05:02:16 PM »
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The prototype may have a slight peak in the roof, but even on the prototype photos on the Tangent site and particularly the picture of the Tangent undecorated model, the peak is almost indistinguishable.
The MT car has a peak that is obvious in photos and can be easily seen from the end on where this is not true of the prototype.
I am glad that you are happy with yours.
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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2016, 06:05:51 PM »
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The prototype may have a slight peak in the roof, but even on the prototype photos on the Tangent site and particularly the picture of the Tangent undecorated model, the peak is almost indistinguishable.
The MT car has a peak that is obvious in photos and can be easily seen from the end on where this is not true of the prototype.
I am glad that you are happy with yours.

The "obvious" peaked roof (for lack of a better description) makes it look more like a car that was modified for appliance service than one that was built for appliance service:

[http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/bynumber/box/sp659000-659052.htm

CNW did have a single 40' PS-1 that was modified for appliance service, but they retained the original 8' door opening (including the location of the upper door track) where it's not even close to this model.

A search for rebuilt PS-1's with new 10' door openings is actually what led me to those rebuilt NP PS-1's...with peaked diagonal panel roofs, of course  :D

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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2016, 12:38:07 AM »
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According to my only reference, of unknown accuracy, the NP 36000-36299 were not rebuilt from PS-1s, but rather built by NP's Brainerd Shops from parts purchased from various manufacturers.

The NP was famous for this.  They built a lot of their boxcars from purchased parts, making it very hard to model them accurately.
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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2016, 05:10:38 PM »
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According to my only reference, of unknown accuracy, the NP 36000-36299 were not rebuilt from PS-1s, but rather built by NP's Brainerd Shops from parts purchased from various manufacturers.

The NP was famous for this.  They built a lot of their boxcars from purchased parts, making it very hard to model them accurately.

This picture appears to show a car with no "rectangles" on the ends, which would be consistent with a car that was originally built in 1947-1948:

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/np/np36259d05.jpg

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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 05:14:52 PM »
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This picture appears to show a car with no "rectangles" on the ends, which would be consistent with a car that was originally built in 1947-1948:



The sill tab at the stirrup and the end grab iron on the second corrugation also suggests a 1947 build.


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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 05:28:00 PM »
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According to my only reference, of unknown accuracy, the NP 36000-36299 were not rebuilt from PS-1s, but rather built by NP's Brainerd Shops from parts purchased from various manufacturers.

The NP was famous for this.  They built a lot of their boxcars from purchased parts, making it very hard to model them accurately.

This quote is from the NPRHA article that @cjm413 posted in the MTL PS-1 kitbash thread.

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NP’s 36000-36298 series were single-sliding-door, 40-foot boxcars acquired in several delivery batches between September and December 1966, with possibly the last cars delivered early in 1967.  They were originally built by Pullman Standard Car Co. for the Lehigh Valley RR in 1947 (according to Matt Herson this was the first production lot of the then-new PS-1 design).

http://www.nprha.org/Modeling/NP%2036000%20Series%20PS-1%20Rebuilt%2040-ft%20Boxcars.pdf

It also confirms that these were very early PS-1's.
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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2016, 01:58:08 AM »
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OK, then I will correct my reference.  That won't be the first mistake in the book...
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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2016, 01:00:44 PM »
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OK, then I will correct my reference.  That won't be the first mistake in the book...

The Morning Sun C&O Color Guide made the same mistake re: C&O's PS-1's that were rebuilt with plug doors.

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Re: MTL 40' hy cube boxcar
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 02:00:51 AM »
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Yep, that's my source, the Morning Sun "NP Color Guide...".
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