MTL 100T trucks

[nkalanaga]

Daniel:  "Trying to figure out what trucks were proper 100t and what were not was really difficult"

That's why I'm willing to recycle my MDC trucks.  When I can get proper 100-ton trucks, I'll use them, but too often they're not to be found. 

Years ago I bought 100 pair of the MDC from Walthers, who sold them in pieces, sideframes, wheels, couplers, etc.  The wheels were junk, and I didn't need Rapido couplers, so all I bought were the frames and pins, and a bunch of Precision Masters wheels.  The MDC trucks looked bigger than any of the MT of the time, and good 36 inch wheels were unavailable except from NWSL, so these made a reasonable visual standin.  Every one of my 100-ton cars had a pair, so I used them with MT 36 inch wheels, after waiting for a couple years for more IM trucks to appear.  Most of my cars now have Atlas trucks, which now also seem to be unavailable, but a few kept the modified MDC, because the slightly shorter wheelbase allowed them to fit without the wheels rubbing something.

I still need one pair of BLMA for a modified tankcar, which has to have the lower bolster.  Maybe someday...

[tom mann]

The two spring spotting feature is common to the ASF 70 ton ride control truck (modeled by Athearn or BLMA)
Although there is still more then two springs if you look behind the front row.
http://freight.railfan.ca/cgi-bin/image.pl?i=soo16841&o=soo

This just made my day, thanks.

[wpsnts]

Spikre and Missaberoad,

Thank you for the info.

[bbussey]

I thought the $6.70 MSRP was incorrect, and that it should have been $4.45?  MBK is showing the higher MSRP.

[nkalanaga]

Feather River Trains first showed the high price, then changed their page when MT announced the lower price.

[wazzou]

MBK still has the $6.70 MSRP with a $4.99 price.

[reinhardtjh]

Feather River Trains first showed the high price, then changed their page when MT announced the lower price.

Does Feather River not discount?  They are currently showing $4.45 each.
http://www.featherrivertrains.com/cgi-bin/webstore/shop.cgi?ud=CQUBBgQBBQMCABQUEhARHQUEBAEHCAUABAgSEAAA&storeid=1&sortby=itemid&cols=1&c=detail.htm&t=main.detail.htm&itemid=003-02-080

Whereas MT is showing $4.45 as list
http://micro-trainsline.com/00302080

[GaryHinshaw]

FRT's typical discount is about 20% (and Chuck's service is priceless!), so the MT trucks are a bit of an anomaly.  The MSRP for a typical MT truck w/o couplers is $4.45.  MBK's price (except for the 100 T truck) is $3.29 (26%), while FRT's is $4.15 (7%).  The 100T pricing seems to be screwed up on both sites.

[JoeD]

no, these are 100 ton trucks, set up to the correct ride height with the larger 36" wheels.  The distance between the wheel centers is also longer than the standard 70' truck.  These were designed for our 60' auto box car.

Joe

  they still look like 70 ton trucks with 36" wheels.
   is something being missed here ?
    Spikre
       

[daniel_leavitt2000]

I'm waiting for the corrected pricing before getting my samples. Has MTL tested them in other cars? I'm curious if we will see then in your Centerflows for example.

[Spikre]

 
  Joe,
   if the trucks have a 5'10" wheelbase,You win !!
   anything less though,,,,,!
   since everyone is hyped up on trucks, how about Foundry Data
   cast into the sideframes and bolsters ?
   it generally includes:
   date truck was cast or order was placed.
   foundry symbol for the point of orgin.
   Road or Lessee that the truck was for.
   sometimes they have things like:
   Ride Control
   Ride Master
   S-2-C Heavy Duty
   Combo Truck,,,,,,still trying to figure this one out ? any ideas ?
   journal sizes
   lots of interesting bits to read and record.
        Spikre
         

[cjm413]

I'm waiting for the corrected pricing before getting my samples. Has MTL tested them in other cars? I'm curious if we will see then in your Centerflows for example.

If the 100T trucks have centered kingpins vs offset kingpins, the longer wheelbase of a 100T truck may make them incompatible with any cars that were designed to use trucks that have both a shorter wheelbase and offset kingpins.

[sundowner]

I got some of this, the distance from the end to the center is the same as the not offset or longer car wheelbase side of the Barber Roller bearing truck. I am currently using them on the Atlas 90T hoppers, but replaces the wheels with FVM's and Trainworx coupler conversion. The only other car I tried it on are the MT Ortner hoppers that I converted to body mount and they work fine.

I wonder if a 10 pack will be offered because I need about 30 more.

[Mark5]

Hmm,

https://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=20824.45

Interestingly, I just saw one of the new release 60' box cars, and it has the trucks with the bolsters in the center. So it seems MTL now has in house two different sets of tooling for the 100 ton Barbers.

Mark

[Spikre]

 
  the Birdsboro Foundry was located in Pennsylvania.
  they were a member of the 4 Wheel Truck Association.
  anyone know what year they closed,or were taken over
  by a different foundry ?
  believe they produced Barber S-2 Solid Bearing trucks
  thru the 40s at least.
    Spikre