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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 02:49:27 PM »
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Hey Wolf

Good news that 1442 had the barrel light. Also a snowplow! I've got some old Sunset plows that look like those (they seem to be 'flatter' than the ones on the SD40/45s). So I'll renumber it, plow it, and renumber another bloody nose SD7 for 1442, I'll do it tonite and pic it!

Dave = TruColor SP Scarlet. It is very close to the KATO paint on the nose and wings.

Rob in NM

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2016, 05:10:04 PM »
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Hey Wolf

Good news that 1442 had the barrel light. Also a snowplow! I've got some old Sunset plows that look like those (they seem to be 'flatter' than the ones on the SD40/45s). So I'll renumber it, plow it, and renumber another bloody nose SD7 for 1442, I'll do it tonite and pic it!

Dave = TruColor SP Scarlet. It is very close to the KATO paint on the nose and wings.

Rob in NM

Hey Rob,

That's awesome. Here is a little more on good 'ol 1442:

SP 1442 EMD SD7, SP Class ES615-4

Built Sep 1953 as 5335 renumbered 2742 then renumbered 1442. Apr 1980 rebuilt to SP 1528.

Perhaps you could renumber it to 1528.  (After it's rebuild - she had the full light package as on your model) Not sure if she had the small square red signal light or the round/oval one.

Just throwing that out there,
Wolf

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2016, 07:33:44 PM »
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Awesome!

https://books.google.com/books?id=bVEhihy7tKEC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=sd7+1528&source=bl&ots=qxMTMkbajR&sig=W4ixyhYE2iY2DzLf0ReYrhr-_d4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj40Oj8_bTMAhVS32MKHeeBBhAQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=sd7%201528&f=false

Hard to tell from that pic but I think its the round one, as the square ones were the early version. It also looks like it lost its plow. My big problem is that I model the late 60's, so 1442 is correct for that era. I guess i'll just renumber 1442 to another one. :(

It looks like after the 1965 renumbering to the 2700's, some of the light packages were the dual headlight below the Mars box. But the Mars box had a single gyrating white signal light, and the upper light was the red emergency light, like this:

http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/sd07_photos/2701_sp-sd07-bob_dengler.jpg

So 1442 is going back to the future as 2701!

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2016, 07:41:51 PM »
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Dave = TruColor SP Scarlet. It is very close to the KATO paint on the nose and wings.

Rob in NM

Are the wings a decal or did you make them yourself? If you did make them are you able to share how you did them?
Dave

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2016, 07:54:43 PM »
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Awesome!

https://books.google.com/books?id=bVEhihy7tKEC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=sd7+1528&source=bl&ots=qxMTMkbajR&sig=W4ixyhYE2iY2DzLf0ReYrhr-_d4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj40Oj8_bTMAhVS32MKHeeBBhAQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=sd7%201528&f=false

Hard to tell from that pic but I think its the round one, as the square ones were the early version. It also looks like it lost its plow. My big problem is that I model the late 60's, so 1442 is correct for that era. I guess i'll just renumber 1442 to another one. :(

It looks like after the 1965 renumbering to the 2700's, some of the light packages were the dual headlight below the Mars box. But the Mars box had a single gyrating white signal light, and the upper light was the red emergency light, like this:

http://espee.railfan.net/nonindex/sd07_photos/2701_sp-sd07-bob_dengler.jpg

So 1442 is going back to the future as 2701!

Rob,

SP used two different manufacturer's signal lights Mars and Pyle National. Mars produced the small square red signal and Pyle national produced the oval one. Both made variations of the dual signal light as well as the barrel light.

Here is all you ever wanted to know about gyralites and signal lights:

 http://www.trainweb.org/gyra/gyra.htm
http://www.trainweb.org/gyra/mars.htm

Have fun,
Wolf

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2016, 08:24:13 PM »
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Wolf

You werent kidding about that link, quite definitive. It mentions Ted Benson, who I met when I lived in Turlock Ca back in the early 80's. He was a photographer with the Modesto Bee, and of course, a railfan extraordinaire. You could never meet a more humble, nice and knowledgeable guy.

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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2016, 09:05:41 AM »
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Wolf

You werent kidding about that link, quite definitive. It mentions Ted Benson, who I met when I lived in Turlock Ca back in the early 80's. He was a photographer with the Modesto Bee, and of course, a railfan extraordinaire. You could never meet a more humble, nice and knowledgeable guy.

Small world. I spent a lot of time around Modesto back then. I had a friend that lived in Balico and worked in Turlock.
I agree with you about Ted Benson. Great person and photogragher. I have many of prints displayed in my home. Did you ever get to meet Joel Jensen. He is a big admirer of Ted and also great photographer. He and I became friends while we both were living in Summerland, CA.

I would still like to know more about how you did the wings on your bloody nose engine.


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Re: SP Barrel/Ashcan lights
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2016, 09:16:29 AM »
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Here is all you ever wanted to know about gyralites and signal lights:

Wow, you weren't kidding.
Thanks for sharing.
These light were neat to see at night in the foggy Central Valley of California.
Dave