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Square corners made easy
« on: March 21, 2016, 09:36:20 PM »
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When I am going to build a box load or trailer for a circus the fist PIA is the square-ness before the glue job . I started searching the other day and ordered these plastic 1 CM plastic counting blocks . I roughed up a face on 2 blocks and Krazy Glued them together . Can't break them apart now , and that's good . They are nice and square with sharp edges . They are solid , drill and tap very well .
I like to think of them as cubic bones . You could add and laminate them to make a custom size , then face them with whatever you want the outside to be . They are small enough and square to be the bones of many things N Scale .

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 01:51:07 AM »
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Legos also work quite well, and can do double duty as forms for casting bridge piers.
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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 10:28:09 AM »
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Be careful using injection molded parts for square -- Most if not all have a small amount of release angel on the sides so that they can be extracted from the mold.

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 11:14:58 AM »
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Be careful using injection molded parts for square -- Most if not all have a small amount of release angel on the sides so that they can be extracted from the mold.

Great point

readings in mm
9.96
10.04
10.02
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10.01
10.00
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Good point . Here are all eight sides of one cube measured along their edges . Not perfect but not bad at all . Long extensions from a single cube require extra care . But I still foresee these as a huge help for me boxing out stuff .


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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 02:29:42 PM »
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Great point

readings in mm
9.96
10.04
10.02
9.98
10.01
10.00
10.02
10.03

Good point . Here are all eight sides of one cube measured along their edges . Not perfect but not bad at all . Long extensions from a single cube require extra care . But I still foresee these as a huge help for me boxing out stuff .

Measurements between faces cannot be consrtued as and indicator of perpendicularity to any other pair of sides,

A better measure may be across all four opposite corners (without crushing the material) and comparing how equal they are.

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 03:07:48 PM »
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Measurements between faces cannot be consrtued as and indicator of perpendicularity to any other pair of sides,

A better measure may be across all four opposite corners (without crushing the material) and comparing how equal they are.

14.01
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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 03:35:04 PM »
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Measurements between faces cannot be consrtued as and indicator of perpendicularity to any other pair of sides,

A better measure may be across all four opposite corners (without crushing the material) and comparing how equal they are.

When I worked for a land surveying company staking our houses for new construction, that is how we used to confirm a house was square after we staked it out.  If the diagonals weren't the same, then the house wasn't square (or rectangular).

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2016, 03:57:15 PM »
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Well if my corners were as square as these blocks I wouldn't be looking for these . It is still easier to build out from something than to build a square with nothing inside IMO .


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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2016, 03:58:09 PM »
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14.01
14.01
13.87
13.89

Close enough for N scale model work!  :)
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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2016, 04:19:39 PM »
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Close enough for N scale model work!  :)

Man, I would think so.  Less than 0.15 millimeters out of square.

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2016, 04:23:58 PM »
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Yea, but he only measured one cube.  Now if he did the whole jar, we determine the standard deviation and thus be sure that his sample cube was within the 2 sigma range.

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2016, 04:37:07 PM »
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Yea, but he only measured one cube....


Hmm... I take two cubes
in my coffee, and I never
felt the need to measure
them...


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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2016, 08:22:03 PM »
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How about a game of RISK?

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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2016, 08:43:53 PM »
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Well if my corners were as square as these blocks I wouldn't be looking for these . It is still easier to build out from something than to build a square with nothing inside IMO .


+1.
I think the idea is to get better without getting anal.
Near as I can tell the cross-corner measurement is square to 1%.
For what I do I am lucky to be within 40%, and that mostly has resulted in good decisions.
But then I don't do construction or model for living.
Fortunate for me, wot? 😆
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Re: Square corners made easy
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2016, 09:08:30 PM »
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How about a game of RISK?
Let's play Twister, let's play Risk...