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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #60 on: February 26, 2016, 12:08:05 PM »
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One thing that I see you may want to change is to make the stripe not so wide. I would raise the lower edge to meet the top of the short hood walkway. This will make it much easier for you to decal when you do this stripe.


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This reminded me of the Rutland's paint scheme. Alco RS1s and RS3s, green with a yellow stripe turning into yellow chevrons on the ends.
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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #61 on: February 26, 2016, 02:24:57 PM »
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And how it got started...


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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #62 on: February 26, 2016, 02:38:51 PM »
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FAs are off the property at the date I am modeling, except for FBs turned into slugs.  I like your scheme but would add a third stripe in the blank zone and skip the lettering.  RS1s will be gone too, except for a ward slug.  The oldest units on the layout in CPM paint will be VO660/1000 and those will have been repainted by 1969 (or 1971 or 1973, whichever I choose to model).  The RS2/3s and S4s may survive in the candy striper scheme (aka Candy the stripper scheme).
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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #63 on: February 26, 2016, 03:05:26 PM »
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Not that it matters, since it's Bryan's model, but I like this scheme with one exception.  I'm not crazy about the herald under the cab window and think that would look better as a nose herald under the headlight.  Nice job, Ed!

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #64 on: February 26, 2016, 03:06:42 PM »
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FAs are off the property at the date I am modeling, except for FBs turned into slugs.  I like your scheme but would add a third stripe in the blank zone and skip the lettering.  RS1s will be gone too, except for a ward slug.  The oldest units on the layout in CPM paint will be VO660/1000 and those will have been repainted by 1969 (or 1971 or 1973, whichever I choose to model).  The RS2/3s and S4s may survive in the candy striper scheme (aka Candy the stripper scheme).

Ah, nice. My point with the FA, btw, was more to show that that's how the scheme started, then was gradually simplified.

And lol @ Candy the stripper... Terri and I are looking at a second dog named Candy. We keep making the stripper name jokes too...

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #65 on: February 26, 2016, 03:11:12 PM »
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Oooh, and I figured out your 70s scheme too...


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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #66 on: February 26, 2016, 04:03:21 PM »
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I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.


As for where it started, I found a GIF of a box cab switcher but thought it was too boring painted in Pullman green, like all the others, to show.
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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #67 on: February 26, 2016, 04:05:24 PM »
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The CR patch.  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #68 on: February 26, 2016, 07:25:16 PM »
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"Seems to me graphic trends were a little more conservative then and real breakthroughs in logo design for public recognition didn't happen until the late 60's and early 70"s, like the CN famous 'Wet Noodle"."

Actually, the CN "wet noodle" logo was developed in 1961, and started appearing on locomotives in the early 1960's.  Here is a link to an RS3 in March 1963, with the "wet noodle" logo and the black/red-orange paint scheme.

http://www.cnrha.ca/sites/default/files/styles/node_gallery_display/public/node_gallery/img_cn3020fr.jpg?itok=JJFuJKi0

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #69 on: February 26, 2016, 09:55:39 PM »
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Thats quite good.  Agree with Dave, move the herald (and change to the CMP herald, not a full spelled out herald) to the nose, and we have an excellent, very realistic, design baseline.
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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2016, 09:14:14 AM »
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Oooh, and I figured out your 70s scheme too...



That is AWESOME!  :lol: :D 8)

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2016, 02:06:47 PM »
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That is AWESOME!  :lol: :D 8)

Lol, glad you like it. I figured the odds weren't in any northeastern railroad's favor in the 70s, especially if PC owed them any money (that's a large part of what doomed the LV).

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2016, 08:23:58 PM »
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Round two...


First, pictured are only RS3s because that particular unit will feature heavily in the 1969-1971 roster and, thus, will have survived through all paint scheme iterations featured here.  Second, with that in mind, try to think about how these schemes would look on larger, more modern locos like the other mainstay of my fleet, the C424, as well as C420s, RS11s, and the C415 if it ever gets printed in Shapways.  Maybe even some six axle belchers.


I took previous critiques about more traditional color use and stripe placement in mind and came up with the following (#1), which represents the as-delivered 1950 scheme:


The first iteration of the as-delivered scheme, #2, comes about the time tail fins are hitting the streets, 1957, and gets a little bolder and more hot rod:


Then we have two options, going red or going grey.  Honestly, I'm leaning towards grey because black lettering will work on it and it's easier to make black decals.  The grey line first... 


In 1961, corporate decides the less expensive grey color of the scheme should take precedence and we get #3A, simply a version of #2:



And then in 1966, with cost cutting hitting railroads, we get a even more draconian version in #3B, black roof for freight units, and #3C, red roof for passenger service:




A solid grey "scheme" could come in the early seventies but I don't think I need to picture it here.


As an alternative to the development in grey, we have the red line.  In 1961, corporate does away with grey completely for a bold Deramus-inspired look for freight units (passenger units maintain scheme #2) with the #4A:



Then, in 1966, the shop forces go completely lazy and come up with #4B for freight and passenger units:

I also reworked the as-delivered Chesapeake Piedmont Midland logo to better graphically point towards the eventual adoption of "Midland" only moniker:




And now have two versions of a more modern logo, the square #5 and round #6, not sure which I like better:








Note, the logos need a consistent red that works with the dark red featured in the paint scheme.


Let the critique begin...

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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2016, 09:59:12 PM »
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I like all of your new ideas. Why not do all colour schemes as per the dates of intro you have suggested. As each new loco or locos are added to the roster it received the newer scheme.
A friend of mine has done that with some custom painted GE U28's. 15 locos but done in batches of five for each new order. The look of each batch is subtle however look very cool on his RR. All your model trucks if any on the RR could see the same treatment then the RR becomes very real.
Just a thought starter.
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Re: Playing with paint schemes
« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2016, 11:27:53 PM »
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I took previous critiques about more traditional color use and stripe placement in mind and came up with the following (#1), which represents the as-delivered 1950 scheme:


The first iteration of the as-delivered scheme, #2, comes about the time tail fins are hitting the streets, 1957, and gets a little bolder and more hot rod:


Then we have two options, going red or going grey. 

As an alternative to the development in grey, we have the red line.  In 1961, corporate does away with grey completely for a bold Deramus-inspired look for freight units (passenger units maintain scheme #2) with the #4A:


Then, in 1966, the shop forces go completely lazy and come up with #4B for freight and passenger units:



Let the critique begin...

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This is the route I'd suggest.  Reasonable, rational, linear, and makes sense as the road builds up, declines and (by the all-red scheme) is soon to die/be sold off.

These four could very reasonable cover 1950-1975.  I'm not partial to the "grey" schemes, both for a realism angle (roads generally avoided white/grey as often as possible) and for purely personal aesthetic reasons.

Great progress though.
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