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N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« on: January 11, 2016, 02:31:07 PM »
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Anyone know if these are available anywhere beside BLMA?  I've had them on backorder for months and now they are no longer shipping anything.  I've done a search but couldn't find anything.  Shapeways has some but they are HO.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 03:23:00 PM »
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They're not exactly correct and might take some work to be usable, but there's these from Rix, which are designed for their bridge kits:

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com/Rix-Products-N-Modern-Highway-Overpass-Railings-p/rix-628-0164.htm

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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 03:47:20 PM »
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Well, the day hasn't been a total loss.  I've actually learned something.  K-Rails are also called, by some at least, Jersey Walls. How they got that name, I have no idea.  Come to think of it, I don't know how they got the name K-Rails either.  Anyway, I looked up Jersey Walls and found come really nice ones on Shapeways that will do the trick.  Who knew.......

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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 04:10:21 PM »
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LOL!  I had no idea that all this time you were talking about Jersey Barriers (or Joisey for the locals).  That is the name they call these in New England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 04:25:39 PM »
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LOL!  I had no idea that all this time you were talking about Jersey Barriers (or Joisey for the locals).  That is the name they call these in New England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier

That's what we call them in the military too.  We use them for force protection.  Typically we use short sections that can be "forked" from place to place.

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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 01:44:56 AM »
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"Jersey Barrier" is also what I usually hear them called in news reports.  Most people here, NE Kentucky/ W West Virginia, don't seem to call them anything in particular.  The most common seems to be "concrete divider".  The most common use around here is at construction zones, with either open medians, cable barriers, or fixed concrete center walls on permanent installations.

It took me a while to figure out "K-rail" when I first saw it in print, in a California news report, and I still don't know why it's called a "rail".

From Wikipedia:
"A Jersey barrier is also known in the western United States as K-rail, a term borrowed from the California Department of Transportation specification for temporary concrete traffic barriers, or colloquially as a Jersey bump."
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 04:41:02 AM »
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Always called em Jersey Walls or barriers. Probably cause every one of them has a little bit of Jimmy Hoffa in it somewhere.
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 10:44:37 AM »
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I've never heard them called Jersey-anything, and I worked for TxDot engineering for 5 years while in college.  Admittedly we didn't use them much on the projects I was associated with, but I still think that's not a term in use down here.
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 10:49:59 AM »
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At MoDOT we called them K-walls, but I wasn't the only engineer there who also knew them as "Jersey barriers".

EDIT: It just occurred to me that when I was at NDOR (Nebraska Department of Roads), they called them K-rails, and looked at me strange when I called 'em Jersey walls. Usage is definitely regional, and underscores my observation/experience that roadway engineering practices vary from state to state, as promulgated by the largest school in the state for traffic engineering. IOW, some overbearing professor's attitudes/theories are typically behind the "Huh?" you encounter when driving away from your home state.
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 01:33:27 PM »
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At MoDOT we called them K-walls, but I wasn't the only engineer there who also knew them as "Jersey barriers".

EDIT: It just occurred to me that when I was at NDOR (Nebraska Department of Roads), they called them K-rails, and looked at me strange when I called 'em Jersey walls. Usage is definitely regional, and underscores my observation/experience that roadway engineering practices vary from state to state, as promulgated by the largest school in the state for traffic engineering. IOW, some overbearing professor's attitudes/theories are typically behind the "Huh?" you encounter when driving away from your home state.

+1. That explains a lot in Arkansas then.
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2016, 02:08:08 PM »
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You don't want to get me started on Arkansas DOT... they were a client, too, but thankfully it was very brief. Talk about a bunch with NIH syndrome. :|
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2016, 09:15:37 PM »
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I've heard them called "no-post barriers" up here in BC. They are everywhere on BC highways; they are used to ensure vehicles don't leave the highway and go down embankments if they leave the driving lanes. With all of our curving mountain roads they are almost continuous on our highways.

If somebody came up with a flexible strip of these things they would sell well...

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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016, 12:44:56 PM »
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HEY GEOFF!!
welcome to Jersey via Tappan zee bridge!
/>Edit. this vid is from the Golden Gate that's  because they have had one on the tappan zee, for years now.it's a much better vid to get point across
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Re: N-Scale K-Rail Concrete Barriers
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2016, 09:18:01 PM »
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I've been using these. I have one package and want a bunch more now.

http://kenraymodels.com/products/jersey-barriers