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Spray Painting Booth
« on: January 11, 2016, 01:04:22 PM »
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Any thoughts on this Badger version from Amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Airbrush%C2%AE-Portable-Airbrush-Extension/dp/B00B2TESUQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_201_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=51rtsZaayCL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1BGXX8C89Z3TRYT4VHHJ

Also considering home building one, but have been unable to locate a fan without the motor in the airstream. I will probably never use anything but acrylic paints, but would prefer to be prepared just in case.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 01:30:08 PM »
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I love how they illustrate it with the exhaust duct aimed straight into where your face would be. Definite error in the photographer's studio. I hope prospective buyers quickly understand that's not where you put it! I've seen this exact booth with house brand names, but even with the Badger branding that's not a bad price.

HOWever... to your concerns, from the descriptive text down at the bottom:

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Not intended for use with Hazardous Materials, Flammable or Explosive Paints or Materials

They have the motor in the exhaust stream, too, probably just some high-flow axial fan normally used for cooling electronics. Personally, if you're inclined to build your own, a $15 box fan won't be a hazard even with solvent-based paints because the motor is a synchronous A/C type. No brushes, so no sparking, and with that much volume being moved anyway, vapor density will be nowhere near hazardous levels.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 02:08:34 PM »
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I actually own that very booth and if you spray acrylics it's ok. They ship it with 2 air filters - you get better airflow if you take one off. It won't pull air Mike's box fan will but I still use it. Hardest part is keep going the exhaust port in the window I use.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 04:02:13 PM »
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My setup uses a dual squirrel-cage blower from Surplus Center.  It uses an induction motor (not sparks) which is also outside of the air stream. It is also powerful and relatively quiet.  I checked and they don't have that blower available anymore.  But they do have what looks like a single-blower version. See http://www.surpluscenter.com/Featured-Items/160-CFM-115-VAC-JAKEL-PP-355-BLOWER-16-1509.axd

While it is not inexpensive, it has features similar to the one I used (but half as powerful).  I would recommend it as a spray-booth exhaust fan.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 04:39:18 PM »
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My setup uses a dual squirrel-cage blower from Surplus Center.  It uses an induction motor (not sparks) which is also outside of the air stream. It is also powerful and relatively quiet.  I checked and they don't have that blower available anymore.  But they do have what looks like a single-blower version. See http://www.surpluscenter.com/Featured-Items/160-CFM-115-VAC-JAKEL-PP-355-BLOWER-16-1509.axd

While it is not inexpensive, it has features similar to the one I used (but half as powerful).  I would recommend it as a spray-booth exhaust fan.

What kind of flow is 160 CFM, in layman's terms?  I need a fan for the booth I built.  Originally it just had a crappy exhaust fan from a stove vent, which barely moves any air. 

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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2016, 04:53:46 PM »
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What kind of flow is 160 CFM, in layman's terms? ...

Visualize a 4 x 5 foot bathroom with the standard 8' ceilings. 160 CFM will theoretically exchange the air in one minutes' time. It won't generate much of a breeze, however - a cheap 20" box fan on "high" is good for 2-3000 CFM.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 06:39:59 PM »
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Actually the lack of breeze is a desired feature for paint booth air-movers. The last thing you want when you are painting is breeze blowing by your model depositing dust in the wet paint or deflecting the spray coming out of the airbrush.  :D

Is there a CFM rating for the fan included in the Badger booth?  If it is a standard computer enclosure fan then I suspect it is much less than 160 CFM.  The dual one I have (rated 320 CFM) generates string air stream on the exhaust side (when I stand by the basement window where it exhausts)
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2016, 12:29:57 AM »
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Go cheap or go home:


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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2016, 12:49:57 AM »
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Go cheap or go home:

(Air filter removed)

Where do those tiny fans exhaust the fumes? Back into the room?  :|
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 03:37:02 AM »
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I use it only with non-toxic acrylics. Spent the last week overhauling my paints and tossing anything that looked dangerous.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 04:09:18 AM »
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I use it only with non-toxic acrylics. Spent the last week overhauling my paints and tossing anything that looked dangerous.

Are you sure that the fumes are non-toxic?  IIRC, the non-toxic designation usually applies to the dried paint.  The solvents in those non-toxic paints usually contain alcohols or glycols among other chemicals.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 04:47:25 AM »
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Can't be any worse than my college days when I dullcoted in my dorm room.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 05:09:28 AM »
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Can't be any worse than my college days when I dullcoted in my dorm room.

LOL!  And I played with unpainted lead toy solders when I was a kid.  :)
So your spray booth is basically an "overspray catcher" with some induced airflow through it?
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 07:28:52 AM »
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Can't be any worse than my college days when I dullcoted in my dorm room.

So that's what you told the RA?

 :D

Daniel, saw your set up. I may mount the fan to a similar style "booth."  Finally got the fittings to run my airbrush of my nail gun compressor tank. Just don't want to spray most of the model bench.

Also debating putting a T junction in at the drier vent and running an exhaust hose from the booth to that spot. I wouldn't use the drier at the same time as the airbrush, so would I have to worry about flammable buildup from the vented overspray? Drier exhaust temps at the vent are around 95 degrees.
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Re: Spray Painting Booth
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2016, 09:08:00 AM »
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This is my set up. The plans are on the web somewhere can't find them, but there out there. but i used a hepa type air conditioning filter plus a large particle filter from making trees days, I've been using it for about a year , It filters out most of the particles but some fumes still get through but not enough to worry about, I also found a dental rolling tool cart (not pictured)
that it sits on that stores all my paints, I use a Nitrogen tank for air brush work and Rattle can a lot of stuff as well. over all very happy with it, when filter is dirty I just rotate it. One day I may fit a second fan into it but for right now it works just fine.

when it was new!, Rotating table got from Arts store on 50% sale coupon


pink foam supports filter.