Kato SP SSW Cotton Belt

[CBQ Fan]

I know the prototype for the model is CB&Q.  But is there a real SP SSW Cotten Belt prototype business car?  If so are there any links to info or photos?  My research has revealed nothing.

[ljudice]

The SP Sunset resembles it somewhat....

The Sunset is now on the UP in yellow/gray paint.

[jmlaboda]

The problem with the Kato business car is that it is a Budd prototype, not Pullman Standard, though it is a beautiful model!!!

A high quality Shapeways print of the SP 150 Sunset is available from N3DPM, listed under Union Pacific.  You would also need the glass detail, which can be found here.  The designer is working on a number of other models and one is said to be the SP 140 Stanford, which is one I plan on buying two of to help fill out my freelanced fleet of business cars.  He definitely is a designer to watch...

(It may be possible to use Dawn dish washing liquid in warm water to remove the wax that is on the glass parts.)

[CBQ Fan]

But was there ever a car called:

SSW Cotten Belt

On the SP?

[johnb]

But was there ever a car called:

SSW Cotten Belt

On the SP?

nope

http://espee.railfan.net/sp-business-cars.html

[GaryHinshaw]

What Kato model are we talking about here? 

[johnb]

[CBQ Fan]

KATO 156-0818 SP Southern Pacific Business Car Cottonland N

Odd that Kato would make up a whole name for this car and not just foobie another name.

[ljudice]

The problem with the Kato business car is that it is a Budd prototype, not Pullman Standard, though it is a beautiful model!!!

A high quality Shapeways print of the SP 150 Sunset is available from N3DPM, listed under Union Pacific.  You would also need the glass detail, which can be found here.  The designer is working on a number of other models and one is said to be the SP 140 Stanford, which is one I plan on buying two of to help fill out my freelanced fleet of business cars.  He definitely is a designer to watch...

(It may be possible to use Dawn dish washing liquid in warm water to remove the wax that is on the glass parts.)

Some REALLY neat stuff there!!!  Thanks for the link!

[Nato]

       Gentlemen, The recently released book by the Southern Pacific Historical and Technical Society "Southern Pacific Official Cars" by Donald M. Munger & Jeffrey Allen Cauthen at 527 large pages (not a low cost investment) contains everything you want to know and more. You have to be a hardcore or almost hardcore like me  SP modeler and fanzee like several other TRW members or a passenger train buff to the max like Jerry to appreciate this book. The section on St. Louis Southwestern "Cotton Belt" shows a variety of heavyweight cars, remember this book also goes back to all wood oldies but goodies, think Roundhouse Athearn Overland wood cars. Different heavyweight cars at various times were Cotton Belt, then SP usually Pacific Lines, then some reverted back to Cotton Belt. The closest N Scale model to a car other than the "Sunset" is the recent release from Lowell Smith Trains in his executive line of two SP Official cars in the last paint scheme of Silver (Simulated Stainless) with Scarlett or Red letter boards. See my postings and photos from earlier this year (Product Information) of one of these cars. Yes I too own a Kato "Cottonland" , shame on me, but I also own about six other foob Kato business cars, UP St. Louis,  a Canadian Pacific, a Pennsylvania , Stainless with Tuscan letter board a Santa Fe (close ,but no cookie), a Burlington (all correct here) and yes as a Anime Fan a Tokyo anniversary car. I think they are cool, but know that they are incorrect. Nate Goodman (Nato).

[CBQ Fan]

Great info NATO. I picked up,mine cause I found it real,cheap and just like the look of it.