Woodbine Industrial Track

[Ed Kapuscinski]

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The overpass, I like it. You can even make it lower too, and more tunnel-like. Look at stuff like the branch that used to go down to American St in Philly.
https://bit.ly/1YsvFJi
There's good stuff both north and south of there.

As for the creek, here are a few I can think of that'd be fitting.
https://bit.ly/1Yswq51
https://bit.ly/1YswQby

I grew up near there, so here's some ground level hotness:
http://railfanning.kapuscinski.net/2015/04/reliving-my-childhood-honeywell-chemical-in-philadelphia/

[conrail1973]

That is one great picture Ed!  I just saw the other ones as well, and they are serving for some inspiration and ideas.  I guess my question or dilemma is can I model street trackage with True Track?  I would be curious if any Unitrack or True Track followers have attempted that.

Thanks,
Adam

[Ed Kapuscinski]

You absolutely can. Either use styrene sheet or something like spackle to provide the road surface.

I think the big challenge is the road bed height, but that's what foam core is for.

Also, I sent you an email through the forum, did you get it?

[mstl 246]

A few more urban paper mills for thought.

Rocktenn now West Rock in St. Paul, MN makes product from recycled paper. Not many cars in, mainly tank cars.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9598061,-93.1924845,214m/data=!3m1!1e3

Georgia Pacific plant in Muskogee, OK produces paper plates and other things. Not as urban but still close to a city.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7324198,-95.2969472,1317m/data=!3m1!1e3

Nat

[conrail1973]

Ed,

I found your email in my spam folder, and I got back to you.

As I've been looking at the links that everyone has been sending, I found this on you tube the other day.

The images of the right of way have given me some more ideas.

Thanks,
Adam

[wm3798]

Those new street angles make a huge difference, no?

[OldEastRR]

Remember also, in most eastern cities, the street grid was there first
Lee

And as this picture shows, there still is a lot of buildings crammed into the space, whether the factory is abandoned or not. (BTW, is that green space running from top to bottom a former mainline?) Also, I think asbestos removal is only required when the building is going to be occupied again. Otherwise it's a "left in place" site. But that  would be a novel layout scene: most of the factories empty and abandoned, former ROW of spurs, and only two or one left operating with rail service. Great for looks, lousy for operations.
Also, notice that every industrial building that's by a street is up against it (or another building that is), even if only one of its walls.

[conrail1973]

Lee,

It's amazing what those street angles did for my layout!  I appreciated the feedback because it does not appear that my layout is on a HCD.  Thanks!!

Adam

[GimpLizard]

Ed,

I found your email in my spam folder, and I got back to you.

As I've been looking at the links that everyone has been sending, I found this on you tube the other day.

The images of the right of way have given me some more ideas.

Thanks,
Adam

If anyone is interested, that spur where the tank cat was spotted is east of E. Desplaines St., just south of W. Grand Ave. (That's in Chicago, of course.) The spur ends directly north of W. Kinzie St. At the Blommer Chocolate Co.

[wm3798]

And as this picture shows, there still is a lot of buildings crammed into the space, whether the factory is abandoned or not. (BTW, is that green space running from top to bottom a former mainline?) Also, I think asbestos removal is only required when the building is going to be occupied again. Otherwise it's a "left in place" site. But that  would be a novel layout scene: most of the factories empty and abandoned, former ROW of spurs, and only two or one left operating with rail service. Great for looks, lousy for operations.
Also, notice that every industrial building that's by a street is up against it (or another building that is), even if only one of its walls.

The grass is indeed a ROW, it was the line that provided access to the old Orangeville Engine Terminal, where GG-1s would graze between assignments on the NEC.  If you look at the tracks as a backward "N", the leg on the right is the B&O line to Penn Mary and on to Sparrows Point, and the diagonal line is the old PRR, now NS route to the wharves at Canton.  Still a very busy line.

Lee

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Speaking of Orangeville, I'm working on an article for an upcoming Conrail Quarterly about it.

There are a few pics here, too, but nothing like what I've got coming.
http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/ConrailFacilities/ConrailEngineTerminals/Orangeville

[conrail1973]

Well...I decided to stop by M.B. Klein while the wife and kids are out of town, and I decided to pick this up today.

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I've been waiting for this color phase for a very long time.  I grew up in Long Island during the entire decade of the 80s, and I do recall seeing the C420 in freight or work train service.  After doing some research last night, I read a little more into the Garden City - Mitchell Field Secondary.  It was quite an interesting bit of track before all the industry left, and it became replaced with office parks and shopping centers.

Anyhow, I thought that would be an interesting bit of track to "proto-freelance", and I came up with this...

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A few reasons why I came up with this plan:

1. I wanted to have more than one team track to handle multiple commodities (this was the case on the secondary).

2. I thought the spur would add the element of the track going beyond the layout.  There was a spur off of the secondary that served some sort of cold storage facility.

3. The secondary served a decent size A&P food store complex.  I thought that would be nice to replicate on the right side of the layout even though it will be a food processing plant for me.

4. If I am going to keep the runaround track, I decided that I needed to have facing and trailing point turnouts.

5. Thoughts on the siding for the Red Wing Mill kit?

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Anyhow, I came up with a 5 day operating schedule, and I will see how it goes (I already ran one day).  I'm ready for some feedback, and I have to give Atlas a shout-out for the durability of the True-Track, and the paint work on the wave scheme.  I can only wish for them to maybe tool a MP15AC down the road 

Thanks,
Adam

[jmarley76]

I came up with a 5 day operating schedule, and I will see how it goes (I already ran one day).

Nice update, like your new plan! I have a loose operating schedule/plan/thing for my layout, but not anything set in stone (or on paper), so I would be interested to hear how your 5 day schedule works out... 

[conrail1973]

Thanks Jeff!!  I'm about 99.5% ready to glue the track down this week, and I hope that this will be the week to glue it down.  With regards to my operating plan, I've borrowed the basic premise that some modelers have used with a "modern" day switch list.  I'll look at the list for each operating session, and I'll pick the next car in the rotation to be placed on the layout.  I really don't have the time to really sit down and complete a fully detailed switch list because I have a good idea of which cars have been run recently.  I've attached some images to reflect how my 5 day schedule works on my layout.  I try to keep my "local" around 6 cars in length because that would be a realistic length for a local during this era.

Enjoy,
Adam

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[conrail1973]

Good afternoon,

After 8 years of being a temporary track plan, I spent the good part of this morning using white glue to set the True Track onto the foam board today.  I've now created a permanent track plan for my layout 

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On the left side of the layout, I've have two team tracks.  I also have a turnout that leads to someplace that is rail served off the layout.

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In the middle of the layout, I continue to have the runaround along with the two rail served industries along the wall (1 covered hopper/week and 2 boxcars/week).

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On the right side of the layout, I have the warehouse (2 boxcars/week), and the Superior Mill kit is currently a brewery or food processing plant (I'm always torn as to which one it will be).  I have this industry receiving boxcars, covered hoppers and tank cars.  It is also shipping out product in RBL's.

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I did spend more time today sizing up more accurate templates for the roads today.  I still haven't decided as to how I will create the roads yet.  I think I will also start to look at ground cover for the layout as well.  A lot of things to do in the coming weeks.

Thanks,
Adam