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Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« on: October 23, 2015, 10:01:06 PM »
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I need Minitrix 2-10 -0 right side rods.  actually the only part damaged is the cam connected to the driver, but a parts engine would be greatly appreciated.

I am also seeking to convert the Minitrix to a Russian Decapod.. I realize the drivers are wrong but think that a new body would make for a good representation..

(as a side note: auto-correct wanted to change Minitrix to Dominatrix!,   Glad I double checked!)

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2015, 11:51:35 AM »
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 :)

Sounds like an interesting project...in more ways than one!

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2015, 09:27:19 PM »
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upon initial review is appears i will have to find a shorter motor either that or accept a roughly 3 foot excess length in the cap.
 the boiler shape is all wrong, I may be able to adapt some of the existing boiler to work. the cab is all wrong, will have to find a donor cap.  My plan is to kit bash a proper shell and then do a RTV mold to make replications of it.

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2015, 03:31:23 PM »
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upon initial review is appears i will have to find a shorter motor either that or accept a roughly 3 foot excess length in the cap.
 the boiler shape is all wrong, I may be able to adapt some of the existing boiler to work. the cab is all wrong, will have to find a donor cap.  My plan is to kit bash a proper shell and then do a RTV mold to make replications of it.

If you have some size limits on the motor, I might be able to make some suggestions there.

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2015, 08:48:32 PM »
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Maybe yours was bound for a part of Russia that required a longer cab!

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2015, 09:12:36 PM »
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Another option would be to USRA it. An old N Scale kitbash was to put an old Atlas 2-8-2 shell onto the 2-10-0 chassis...

http://forum.atlasrr.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=47568
« Last Edit: October 25, 2015, 09:16:15 PM by johnb »

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2015, 09:04:22 AM »
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Years ago, my dad kitbashed Stasburg's 90 out of a Trix decapod and one of the USRA shells (and a lot of work).

I wish I had a better photo of it. Next time I see him I'll do that.

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2015, 09:19:39 AM »
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I wouldn't mind some motor suggestions. getting back into the hobby after a long absence. so I really don't know what is out there. Ideally the motor is very long, a shorter more compact motor would really make a big difference.
 the engine seems perfect for conversion to DCC as well with sound and control mounted in the tender.
I also need a set of side rods, as one of the two engies I am building has been crushedand the right side rods were damaged

If you have some size limits on the motor, I might be able to make some suggestions there.

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2015, 09:26:19 AM »
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@Doc Frankenfield , I have a brand new trix decapod I will let go for (negotiate), then you will have lots and lots of spare parts, contact me via PM.

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 12:07:38 PM »
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How short, long, compact do you want this motor?
I have a Trix decapod lying around too, and I can find other motors that will fit in there.
But you are going to modify this to make a different 2-10-0, so to really be of any help,
I would need to know how much room (length x width x height) you plan on ending up with
for the motor.

I can tell you this:  My instincts are:

1. Any of the convention Atlas/Kato diesel motors are going to be way too large.

2. Mashima (they make a 10x12 x 15mm long  and a 10x12x20 long as their smallest)

3. Faulhaber 1016 (10mm round x 16 long) or Maxon 1017 (10mm round x 17 long)

Faulhaber and Maxon also make 8mm diameter, but these are all coreless and by that, I mean
"really good" coreless, so they are expensive (like over $100 expensive).
But the Faulhaber 1016 and Maxon 1017 and 1024 can be had on eBay from microlocomotion (that's Eldon
the "motor man").   You can also email him (motorman@micro-loco-motion.com)  That's the quickest way to
ask him what he has.  He has a LOT of motors.  It takes time because he is an overly busy guy, but
he has the goods for good prices.

He also has the Mashimas.

Any of these options are going to cost you between $35 and $50.

4. Consider the Bachmann 2-8-0 motor.  You can buy that from Bachmann's online store
for $12.50... but you may not have the room for it.  It is a pretty compact motor and has a decent 5-pole
armature with good power for its size.

But to really know... you need to estimate the room you are really going to have for a motor   :)

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2015, 06:10:23 PM »
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So here's an idea for a motor location to have a full cab detail... The worm meshes perfectly with the worm gear!

This is a brand new Bachmann K4 motor from the parts store... You are a brass tube with some tapped bosses on it away from a solution


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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2015, 06:57:51 PM »
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Makes me wonder if one could use a Bachmann 2-10-2 mech and that K4 motor to make a proper Russian decapod.

Or we just all lobby Bachmann to finally produce Russian decapods in N.
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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2015, 08:44:41 PM »
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Lemosteam: could you do a top down shot??

@VonRyan; while the drivers are a different size I think this will work fairly well. I plan to prototype a full body shell and replicate them to fit the modified chassis for a Russian Decapod
thank for the input everybody. looks like this can work.
 I think that if I use the bachmann motor above,  I could do a resin motor bracket as well

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2015, 09:05:06 PM »
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So here's an idea for a motor location to have a full cab detail... The worm meshes perfectly with the worm gear!

This is a brand new Bachmann K4 motor from the parts store... You are a brass tube with some tapped bosses on it away from a solution
do you have part number for that motor??  looks like I gonna be ordering two fo them..

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Re: Minitrix 2-10 -0 russian decapod conversion... anyone?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2015, 09:07:52 PM »
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Not really, I did not want to damage the electrical contact on the driver that runs up to the small pic board atop the gear tower. Trust me it'll work when all that stuff is out of the way.  The motor drops right into the width of the shell...

If you make the motor mount out of brass tubes you will be able to reattach the shell above it.