New Bachmann RS3 schemes released

[bbussey]

Email notice today from Bachmann.  Three new schemes on the RS3.  MSRP $159.

Boston & Maine (new number)
Delaware & Hudson gray/blue
Seaboard Air Line

They also have Pennsylvania, Rio Grande, and Southern listed on the website.

[garethashenden]

With this being Bachmann I think I'll look past the body phase issues, but they put the Minuteman in the wrong place 
It should be on the cab sides.

[peteski]

With this being Bachmann I think I'll look past the body phase issues, but they put the Minuteman in the wrong place 
It should be on the cab sides.

Some B&M RS3s has the nose heralds too, but I don't ever recall seeing one with no herald (and with stripes) across the cab.  But maybe there were some painted like that.  I'll give Bachmann the benefit of the doubt.

[sirenwerks]

Some B&M RS3s has the nose heralds too, but I don't ever recall seeing one with no herald (and with stripes) across the cab.  But maybe there were some painted like that.  I'll give Bachmann the benefit of the doubt.

Sure you have...



@ Lionel.com.   

[sirenwerks]

Oh, and at Walthers too.



And Wally forgot the black body and cab roof.  Shame on you, Wally...

[peteski]

Sure you have...



@ Lionel.com.   

  DOH! 

Many moons ago I custom-painted a B&M RS-3 and the more I think about it the more I think that it looked just like that (just stripes across the cab).   I found the old photos.

[nickelplate759]

With this being Bachmann I think I'll look past the body phase issues, but they put the Minuteman in the wrong place 
It should be on the cab sides.

Umm - look at the farther unit (behind #1505) no Minuteman on the sides!  None on the short hood either, but that's the back end.

And here's another one, #1535.  Both this one and the mystery unit in the earlier photo are earlier phase RS3's - that matches the Bachmann model


And here's one showing the herald on the nose, #


I think you're being way to hard on Bachmann this time - they got it right!


George.

[garethashenden]

Alright people. I'm well aware that some B&M RS-3s had heralds on the long hood end. This is the first batch delivered in 1952, numbers 1535-1545. The first Bachmann model is fine, it's 1545. The rest of the RS-3s (1505-1519) had the herald on the cab sides.

My point is, if they want to do that number, they need to move the herald. Otherwise, choose a different number.

Also, Walthers 1502 is a RS-2, they had maroon roofs and it is in the correct livery.

[sirenwerks]

Also, Walthers 1502 is a RS-2, they had maroon roofs and it is in the correct livery.

Hey, B&M ain't my road, I was stokin' the flames a bit...  .

[bbussey]

My point is, if they want to do that number, they need to move the herald. Otherwise, choose a different number.

Who's to say that 1505 wasn't painted in the striped-cab theme at some point?  Yes, they could site a photo to prove it.  But unless you have documented evidence that the unit was never painted in that variation, you can't say they got it wrong.  It's clear in the photos above that RS-3s of that phase were painted in the striped-cab theme.

[Puddington]

You know, this thread illustrates my point that I was trying to gently make in my "why can't you just get it right" thread.... well meaning, intelligent and knowledgable modellers want to help but can often have incomplete information, only have access to some information, have a particular bent, point of view or interest that clouds their information or, in some cases, can just be wrong.... Here we have a case where it has been shown that something that one person thought incorrect might have been correct, or, might not have been... had the mfg reacted to just one opinion then they would have perhaps have been wrong, and open to critical comments for not "doing their homework...."

It's quite often not as simple as it seems; as this isolated case illustrates.... what exact time is the model meant to represent, in what locale..... and a host of other questions... until these are answered there is no "right or wrong" answer....

It's not as cut and dry as some make it out.....

[garethashenden]

Who's to say that 1505 wasn't painted in the striped-cab theme at some point?  Yes, they could site a photo to prove it.  But unless you have documented evidence that the unit was never painted in that variation, you can't say they got it wrong.  It's clear in the photos above that RS-3s of that phase were painted in the striped-cab theme.

The Bachmann model is phase 1 right? The phase 1 locomotives (1535-1545) had stripes on the cab and the minuteman herald on the long hood end. The phase 3 locomotives (1505-1519) had the minuteman herald on the cab sides. Numbers 1506, 1508, 1511, 1512, 1517, 1518, 1519, and 1542 were eventually painted blue. The rest went to scrap with whatever remained of the factory paint. They were never repainted with the same livery.

I'll keep looking for a builders photo of 1505, but here's 1518 within months of delivery: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bmrrhs/11425414773/in/dateposted/

[peteski]

One way to put this kind of questioning the authenticity of a paint scheme to rest would be for the manufacturer to reveal the actual photo they used for reference.  Do it either on their website or print it on the box insert with each model.

Before people jump all over me, I'm joking - I know this ain't going to happen.  But it sure would help to squelch the criticisms.

[bbussey]

The Bachmann model is phase 1 right? The phase 1 locomotives (1535-1545) had stripes on the cab and the minuteman herald on the long hood end. The phase 3 locomotives (1505-1519) had the minuteman herald on the cab sides. Numbers 1506, 1508, 1511, 1512, 1517, 1518, 1519, and 1542 were eventually painted blue. The rest went to scrap with whatever remained of the factory paint. They were never repainted with the same livery.

Don't know what to tell you.  They released BM 1545 the first time around.  It seems they picked a number that was out of the Phase-I sequence this time around.  I suspect that Boston & Maine modelers will not quibble over the engine number, and those in the know will simply change it.  The Atlas version featured the cab herald scheme with correct road numbers, so there is opportunity for B&M modelers to run both schemes simultaneously.

[Puddington]

One way to put this kind of questioning the authenticity of a paint scheme to rest would be for the manufacturer to reveal the actual photo they used for reference.  Do it either on their website or print it on the box insert with each model.

Before people jump all over me, I'm joking - I know this ain't going to happen.  But it sure would help to squelch the criticisms.

There's nothing wrong with that; we have often been asked for a reference and we always try and provide it; unless it's a copyrighted image in a book... that is a fair request of a mfg.