Hmmmm ... (G41a coil car)

[delamaize]

PRR started building them in 1965.

damn. I'm running '43-'53

[chicken45]

I find myself caring less and less the more I love the car.

[bobdobbs]

Cool!!

[OldEastRR]

Gotta get away from introducing all this Pennsy stuff.   

No, you don't, but concentrate on Pennsy cars that would be common on the NH up to 1954.

[eric220]

No, you don't, but concentrate on Pennsy cars that would be common on the NH up to 1954.

Definitely this.

[bbussey]

The era is right, but some focus needs to be directed at the southeast. Regarding PRR, there is this car and possibly the ore jenny. Another RTR model in the pipeline has PRR origins, but nothing definitively PRR is on the planning board. There is plenty out there already, so much that I can't think of a transition-era PRR prototype that could be tooled and legitimately deco'd for other roads.

[chicken45]

If anything, I have almost ONLY PRR stock. Need to diversify in to reefers and other roads.
I picked up @bbussey 's well flat in LV that I found at Esters Hobby. He had a few PC and CR left, too! Give him a call!

The car is great! I'm always excited when ESM releases something. I'm sorry I missed out on that G32a Kit.

[wcfn100]

There is plenty out there already, so much that I can't think of a transition-era PRR prototype that could be tooled and legitimately deco'd for other roads.

I can. 



Jason

[Dave V]

The era is right, but some focus needs to be directed at the southeast. Regarding PRR, there is this car and possibly the ore jenny. Another RTR model in the pipeline has PRR origins, but nothing definitively PRR is on the planning board. There is plenty out there already, so much that I can't think of a transition-era PRR prototype that could be tooled and legitimately deco'd for other roads.

One thing the Pennsy modeler is lacking that may be of interest (I legitimately don't know) to other modelers and potentially in other roadnames (not the K4, sorry!) are the thousands and thousands of X29 rebuilds.  The closest we have are the Atlas USRA rebuilds, but there were enough variations in the prototype I wonder if there's room for other models.

Just spit-ballin'.

[bbussey]

If anything, I have almost ONLY PRR stock. Need to diversify in to reefers and other roads.
I picked up @bbussey 's well flat in LV that I found at Esters Hobby. He had a few PC and CR left, too! Give him a call!

The car is great! I'm always excited when ESM releases something. I'm sorry I missed out on that G32a Kit.

They'll be back before the end of the year.

I can. 

No more RTR gons in the foreseeable future, if ever.  The G26 will have to do.  "Regular" gon sales are sluggish overall in N it seems, and composite cars just do not sell.  When it the last time MTL released one of their composite gon models?

One thing the Pennsy modeler is lacking that may be of interest (I legitimately don't know) to other modelers and potentially in other roadnames (not the K4, sorry!) are the thousands and thousands of X29 rebuilds.  The closest we have are the Atlas USRA rebuilds, but there were enough variations in the prototype I wonder if there's room for other models.

Just spit-ballin'.

Can't justify a new RTR model that would be enough of an upgrade over the Red Caboose (and now Fox Valley) version, in my opinion.  That model is more than adequate.  I'd rather see PC&F and ACF boxcars which never have been done in N before seeing another duplicate model when the current model remains viable.  Regarding the USRA X29 clones, both MTL and RC(FVM) make models that fill that niche.

[Dave V]

Can't justify a new RTR model that would be enough of an upgrade over the Red Caboose (and now Fox Valley) version, in my opinion.  That model is more than adequate.  I'd rather see PC&F and ACF boxcars which never have been done in N before seeing another duplicate model when the current model remains viable.  Regarding the USRA X29 clones, both MTL and RC(FVM) make models that fill that niche.

I didn't mean as-built X29s, I meant rebuilds...  Many were rebuilt with taller bodies and dreadnaught ends, almost looking more like a straight-silled PS1 than an X29.  I agree, there are ample options for as-built X29s.

Case in point, an X29D:
http://pennsyrr.com/index.php/about/musings/entry/prr-x29d-released

[wcfn100]

No more RTR gons in the foreseeable future, if ever.  The G26 will have to do.  "Regular" gon sales are sluggish overall in N it seems, and composite cars just do not sell.  When it the last time MTL released one of their composite gon models?

A good first step would be call them 'War Emergency' gondolas instead of 'composite'.  You're likely to get much more attention from the casual freight car buyer.  Second, you couldn't do this car justice in any RTR form.  The beauty of the car is it's longevity which includes rebuilding and repurposing in later years.

As for the MTL car, I think they've exhausted most of what they could do.  They can't do the open side or metal side replacement cars.  However there could be more Hippo cars at some point. 

My interest is manly getting a RI TOFC flat and the OTDX cars are too cool not to want.

Jason

[bbussey]

I didn't mean as-built X29s, I meant rebuilds...  Many were rebuilt with taller bodies and dreadnaught ends, almost looking more like a straight-silled PS1 than an X29.  I agree, there are ample options for as-built X29s.

Case in point, an X29D:
http://pennsyrr.com/index.php/about/musings/entry/prr-x29d-released

Unique to PRR though, yes?  While the car is unique, it's not distinctive enough to attract non-PRR modelers. There's no viable path to recuperating the tooling investment for a RTR model. Probably the same reason that HO versions have only appeared as resin kits.

A good first step would be call them 'War Emergency' gondolas instead of 'composite'.  You're likely to get much more attention from the casual freight car buyer.  Second, you couldn't do this car justice in any RTR form.  The beauty of the car is it's longevity which includes rebuilding and repurposing in later years.

As for the MTL car, I think they've exhausted most of what they could do.  They can't do the open side or metal side replacement cars.  However there could be more Hippo cars at some point. 

My interest is manly getting a RI TOFC flat and the OTDX cars are too cool not to want.

Jason

War emergency or not, gons don't sell well for whatever reason.

[Dave V]

Unique to PRR though, yes?  While the car is unique, it's not distinctive enough to attract non-PRR modelers. There's no viable path to recuperating the tooling investment for a RTR model. Probably the same reason that HO versions have only appeared as resin kits.

That's where my "expertise" (such as it is) breaks down...  What I don't know is how similar these (or the other X29 rebuild classes) are to other roads such that you could do other schemes.  That's why you get paid the big bucks, right?   

[ai5629]

What about a 40' round roof boxcar, PRR class X31 and X31A?  This is a unique / signature prototype that ran from the 1930's to the 1960's.  It was found in all areas of the US.  Railroad Prototype Cyclopedia 22 had a comprehensive article on PRR round roof cars.  There are photos of these cars in Kansas City, Saint Louis, San Francisco, Oakland and San Diego.  Railroad Prototype Cyclopedia 23 has an article on non-PRR round roof cars.  They were used by N&W, DT&I and NP.  Bowser has them tooled in HO, so the measurements are out there.  I personally have been waiting for FVM to pursue this car, as it would complement there B&O and MILW signature cars.  Besides, Bowser has the H30 in HO and FVM has it in N scale.  There is some history there! 

Regarding the original post, I will be on board for some G41A's.  I have a photo credit in the original RYM instruction sheet.  I also have a six pack of these that are sitting unassembled in the same desk drawer I put them in 10 years ago.  I have two photos of Conrail G41A'a with covers that Brian might be interested in for decals!  Thanks.

Jeff