Sorry, I thought Neolube was a lubricant!

[havingfuntoo]

Yes, migration was one of my concerns, reading the data I note the binder that is used. Thanks for the link peteski.

[Burlington Bob]

Once dried, there will be no migration.  It is NOT like paint!  It is basically powdered graphite in an alcohol carrier.  It is an extremely free flowing liquid that does not have any surface tension, or is imperceptibly low. 

[peteski]

Once dried, there will be no migration.  It is NOT like paint!  It is basically powdered graphite in an alcohol carrier.  It is an extremely free flowing liquid that does not have any surface tension, or is imperceptibly low.

Bob, you must have missed my post where I quoted some text describing the Neolube #2.  It is not just a graphite in alcohol.  There is also some resin in the mix.

[Dave V]

[M.C. Fujiwara]

Obviously we need a refresher on the proper way for Asshats to share their NeoLube love with each other:



Happy Valentine's Day! 

[Burlington Bob]

I didn't miss your post about the resin ingredient.  All I'm saying is that when you use it, it will not act like paint.  You will be totally unaware of anything other than brushing on a coat of black alcohol.  It is extremely free flowing.  If you were using a brush to apply paint, your typical "brush ready" paint will spread very little beyond the actual brush stroke.  Neolube, on the other hand, will flow freely beyond the brush stroke and will be effected quite strongly by gravity, meaning it will run many times faster than you can wipe it with a rag. 

It will drip quite readily, will stain whatever it comes into contact with and will, for all intents and purposes, be permanent.  To get a feel for what it will act like before actually using it, just brush on plain 91% alcohol.  I'm not trying to be an alarmist or anything of the sort.  I just want folks to know what to expect before using it for the first time and possibly ruining a prized model.  If you expect it to be like regular paint you will be in for a surprise.  Don't be afraid to use it for darkening metals, etc.  It will do a fantastic job of that, just be careful the first time to avoid any mishaps.

[eric220]

Obviously we need a refresher on the proper way for Asshats to share their NeoLube love with each other:

...

Happy Valentine's Day! 

Thanks. Just what I wanted to see right before I go to bed. Nightmares here I come!

[Missaberoad]

Ftw 

[peteski]

It will drip quite readily, will stain whatever it comes into contact with and will, for all intents and purposes, be permanent.

It is not quite that bad Bob!  If you have a jar of Neolube, open it up and let whatever is deposited on the lid seal dry.  It will dry to a nice solid layer of dark graphite.  Then take a piece of paper towel moistened in 99% isopropyl alcohol and wipe the seal. The alcohol readily dissolves the layer of graphite and after repeating the cleanup process couple more times the seal is nice and white again. So this stuff is far from being permanent (on smooth surfaces impermeable to alcohol).

[M.C. Fujiwara]

It's not permanent: I use Neolube to stain rails around the throwbar of a turnout, and even after "drying" a bare-finger wipe will partially remove NeoLube from the top of the rails--a bright boy will remove it in a pass or two.

[Burlington Bob]

"It's not permanent."  That statement is true if the material that it is applied to, or dripped on, is impermeable.  The permeability of the material is the ultimate factor in determining the permanence of Neolube.  Due to the great range of materials used on our layouts, I think it would be wise to regard Neolube as being permanent once it is on a surface. 

I believe that the best way to treat Neolube is as it being a permanent coloring agent.  If you use it on a surface and decide that you don't like the results, thinking that you can wipe it off based on statements made here, then find out to your great dismay that it won't come off at all or only partially at best, is setting folks up for an unpleasant shock. 

I feel it is best to treat the coloring ability of this product conservatively.  Experiment with it and get a feel for the way it acts and the results it will give based on different materials.  Yes, in some instances, it can be removed.  For most materials used on our layouts, however, it will be permanent and will ruin a nice model or area of scenery if spilled, dripped or carelessly applied.  THAT is the point that I want folks to understand and always keep in mind.

[peteski]

Bob,
to me it seems to be common sense that if you coat any porous surface with any sort of stain (not just Neolube), it is more or less permanent.  It would be difficult to remove such stain from let's say raw wood, paper or cardboard surface.

But the same stain applied to a non porous surface can be removed more easily.  So a stain or Neolube applied to metal, glass, or plastic can be removed fairly easily.

To me Neolube seems no different than other stains.   

[tom mann]

Sounds like the NeoLube honeymoon is over!