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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2014, 04:14:43 PM »
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If all you're doing is cutting the side and the windows, I think I'd still go with drilling the window corners with a bit size that matched the rounding and cut and file the windows.  Gives very clean results.

Nice start on the CGW Business Car Mike.  What color is it going to be?


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Maroon.  Have you tried TruColor yet?  It looks a little off in the bottle but I haven't sprayed any yet.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2014, 06:04:11 PM »
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What model of the Silhouette are you all using?  I have the Cameo and just cut this out in 2 minutes, no issues.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2014, 06:05:53 PM »
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What model of the Silhouette are you all using?  I have the Cameo and just cut this out in 2 minutes, no issues.


Nice .. how thick is that?

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2014, 06:07:00 PM »
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2014, 06:08:59 PM »
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I agree that etching brass or laser cutting (thin acrylic, not styrene) will result on more accurate shapes. But neither of those methods can be done on your workbench (unless you own a laser cutter or etching system).

I seem to recall some car sides (don't remember which company made them).  They were laser cut from thin acrylic sheet.  The sheet still had the paper protector on it (most acrylic sheets come protected on both sides). and the window outlines were relief-engraved through the paper and into the acrylic.  When you peeled off the protective paper from the car body (leaving the window areas protected, then painted it and peeled the protector from the windows, the model ended up with flush-mounted crystal-clean windows.  You could also flow some silver or black paint into the relief-engraved window edge.  That gave a nice representation of the window frame/gasket. I thought that was an excellent solution for that type of a car.

American Model Builders sells car sides done this way...it certainly does make window painting a breeze...
I've found, for me, that I do prefer using the styrene sides sold by others, and the etched 'brass' sides are my absolute favorite, if for no other reason than the detail generally found with those. I sure would like to use my cricket for all manner of things model railroad-y.
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2014, 06:17:12 PM »
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Anyone want to cut some Messerschmitt cab and coach car sides for me? I made black/white etching patterns before but never got the etching kit to work right.

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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2014, 06:55:02 PM »
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What model of the Silhouette are you all using?  I have the Cameo and just cut this out in 2 minutes, no issues.


I use the smaller Portrait.  The curves I usually use are much sharper than the ones in your image.  I've cut curves of approximately the radius you have with no issues.  It's all in how many small straight lines the program decides to use to make the full curve.
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2014, 07:33:30 PM »
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What would a typical window dimension be, and what radius for the curved corner?

The Cameo appears to be solid down to .5mm diameter.  At .25 it quickly dropped off to a square and it looks like actual cut was below the tolerance threshold.  Both .25 and .5 appear the same size, but the .5 is cleaner. 

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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2014, 07:43:54 PM »
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Maroon.  Have you tried TruColor yet?  It looks a little off in the bottle but I haven't sprayed any yet.

Not yet.  Going to try and still holdout with acrylics.  I'm going to grab a bunch of Vallejo paint and see what I can do.  Besides, as you know, that maroon is only going be good for a fresh paint job which I don't anticipate having too many of.


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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2014, 07:44:39 PM »
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If you go here .. http://unionstationproducts.com/_7601.html

their sample drawings are pretty close to Nscale .. it should give you an idea of how detailed the windows would need to be

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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2014, 12:02:27 PM »
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Thanks to Aaron, I might actually get to build my Messerschmitt commuter cars! Now I have to find some more American Limited course kits.
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2014, 12:08:08 PM »
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If you go here .. http://unionstationproducts.com/_7601.html

their sample drawings are pretty close to Nscale .. it should give you an idea of how detailed the windows would need to be

I have a handful of USP kits (HO scale versions) for various car designs that I'm building for passenger stock on my Algoma Central. They're .010 styrene sides with a clear acrylic core, with the window sections of the acrylic cut out separately to be installed later. I've got one of the baggage cars about half built so far. I constantly have about 20 different projects sitting around in various states of construction, so I haven't made much forward progress on the passenger cars in a bit, but you can see some photos on my blog using this tag link:

http://vanderheide.ca/blog/tag/union-station-products/

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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2014, 02:57:31 PM »
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I dug out the sun lounge car sides.  Here's a quick cell phone pic.  Hard to tell from the photo, but the fluting seems halfway decent for just scribed lines, though I won't know for sure until the model is painted.



You can see I still have a bit to do around some of the larger windows.  I'm going slow to make them perfect.
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2014, 04:52:18 PM »
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Just purchased 15 core kits straight from American Ltd. The cores themselves are not the problem, rather the detail/truck sprue is what has the tooling issues.

They have both black and gray cores available.
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Re: Passenger car sides using Silhouette Cutter?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2014, 04:56:30 PM »
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Just purchased 15 core kits straight from American Ltd. The cores themselves are not the problem, rather the detail/truck sprue is what has the tooling issues.


Yeah, it's one of the under body details.

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