Kato Amtrak Superliner II Transition Sleeper announced

[EspeeGoldenState]

All transitional sleepers were Superliner IIs. Now whether they are reused viewliner trucks I cant tell from the graphic alone. I would like to hope that its a new GSC truck and that we can hope that Kato does sets of IIs. I for one would buy some just to mix and match like they do.

Chris

[peteski]

What is Phase VI? I've seen this elsewhere, and to my knowledge there is only phase V for current locomotives, and Phase IVb for other equipment? Though I would also consider the new viewliners a Phase IIIb.

Chris

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak_paint_schemes explains the phases nicely.

[EspeeGoldenState]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak_paint_schemes explains the phases nicely.

I know my phases of Amtrak very well, but that did not answer my question. What is Phase VI? or 6? There is none. And would the new viewliners just be considered Phase IIIb, as they are a variant of them with also the Phase I Pointless Arrow logo. That's all I'm asking. I don't see it being a "6" with only this set of cars getting the treatment.

I'll stop questioning silly stuff I guess. 

Chris

[peteski]

I know my phases of Amtrak very well, but that did not answer my question. What is Phase VI? or 6? There is none. And would the new viewliners just be considered Phase IIIb, as they are a variant of them with also the Phase I Pointless Arrow logo. That's all I'm asking. I don't see it being a "6" with only this set of cars getting the treatment.

I'll stop questioning silly stuff I guess. 

Chris

I guess you missed this section 

Phase IVb
Amfleet I coaches in Phase IVb livery

Phase IVb was the name given to Amtrak's newest paint scheme applied on passenger cars. It is now the most common paint scheme seen on Superliner equipment. Many people confuse Phase IVb with Phase V because they are, on passenger cars, the next livery after Phase IV. Others have called it Phase VI because it is clearly the next chronologically after Phase V.

[EspeeGoldenState]

Ok that doesn't make much sense. Phase IVb would in essence by Phase V as that is the removal "Superliner" on the Is and IIs and the addition of the Acela logo, and color tints. Still where does Phase VI even come into play? Phase IVb would be an in between of IV and V as its not exactly one or the other. I don't understand how anyone that could call IVb as VI. There is no such thing as Phase V for non-locomotives.

That's what I'm confused about. How can you skip a Phase for equipment? There is no Phase VI locomotives is there?

There was so many variants to paint on Phase V locomotives. IE where the bottom blue and gray separation was. The small Amtrak and Acela logo on the cab doors.

AMTK 163 with low red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=154496

AMTK 134 with higher red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1595265

Shows both two high and two low units on #4.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1097460

Chris

[peteski]

Ok that doesn't make much sense. Phase IVb would in essence by Phase V as that is the removal "Superliner" on the Is and IIs and the addition of the Acela logo, and color tints. Still where does Phase VI even come into play? Phase IVb would be an in between of IV and V as its not exactly one or the other. I don't understand how anyone that could call IVb as VI. There is no such thing as Phase V for non-locomotives.

That's what I'm confused about. How can you skip a Phase for equipment? There is no Phase VI locomotives is there?

There was so many variants to paint on Phase V locomotives. IE where the bottom blue and gray separation was. The small Amtrak and Acela logo on the cab doors.

AMTK 163 with low red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=154496

AMTK 134 with higher red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1595265

Shows both two high and two low units on #4.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1097460

Chris

Sounds like you should update the Wiki page. 

[eja]

There was so many variants to paint on Phase V locomotives. IE where the bottom blue and gray separation was. The small Amtrak and Acela logo on the cab doors.

AMTK 163 with low red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=154496

AMTK 134 with higher red sill stripe
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1595265

Shows both two high and two low units on #4.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1097460

Chris

As I recall, there is usually so much grime on these loco, one would have no idea where the separation might occur.

[EspeeGoldenState]

Here is a final image of the car from the Kato website and tweet from today.

[eric220]

Came home today and found this little gem waiting for me.



I wasted no time in pressing her into service.

[sundowner]

I got mine today as well, hope they do more.

[jmlaboda]

There was so many variants to paint on Phase V locomotives. IE where the bottom blue and gray separation was. The small Amtrak and Acela logo on the cab doors.

In looking at several shots of these locomotives it appears that the original scheme applied by GE had the red stripe set high above the gray while repaints all have the lower placement of the stripe.

[tehachapifan]

Whaddya know....yet another kitbash made obsolete.....'cept for the scheme I suppose....