New BLMA Guesser Photo

[Kisatchie]

The Red Caboose car was an Ortner with 5 bays.  Different animal from the Tangent car

This is the car I'm talking about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LOT-of-2-N-Scale-Red-Caboose-4740-PS-2-3-Bay-Covered-Hopper-Cars-GN-2-Rd-s-/261523310284?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3ce40106cc


Hmm... I'm confused...

[sirenwerks]

The Red Caboose car was an Ortner with 5 bays.  Different animal from the Tangent car

G

Come again?  http://www.blwnscale.com/rc-hopper-4740.htm

[cfritschle]

Or maybe a hopper????

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/bethlehem-quad-hopper/

This is probably the car most needed by anyone modeling Union Pacific with an era from 1974 to today! 

I saw these three today, as well as many more of their siblings.



Carter

[ryan_wilkerson]

What were the first build dates on the TBOX'es and FBOX'es?   Quick scan kept coming up with 2003 photos so I'm guessing sometime around then which is still a tad early for me.

You are right Dough, it looks like April 2003.
http://www.railcarphotos.com/Search.php?SearchSeriesID=225&Search=Search

[Spades]

This is the car I'm talking about:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LOT-of-2-N-Scale-Red-Caboose-4740-PS-2-3-Bay-Covered-Hopper-Cars-GN-2-Rd-s-/261523310284?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item3ce40106cc


Hmm... I'm confused...

Sorry K 

In attention to detail, and typing without thinking.  I confused your post with with Ijudice tangent's bethleham quad hoppers.

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[Ike the BN Freak]

This is probably the car most needed by anyone modeling Union Pacific with an era from 1974 to today! 

I saw these three today, as well as many more of their siblings.



Carter

How different are these from the Trainworx quad hoppers?

[unittrain]

Uh oh, if you're right I may need to take out a home equity loan:

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/product-category/bethlehem-70-ton-riveted-drop-end-gondola

  Frank

Me too I believe I asked about these on this forum and Craig said it would likely be that they would be done in N, lets hope.

[unittrain]

A bulkhead gon would be a new body style not done before, so it is a possibility.

A bulkhead gondola is really needed there were alot of them in the 70's carrying pipe, Chessie had quite a few.

[MRL]

Did I see mention of a 62' tankcar??? BNFT's!!!

70 ton trucks and it is short like a 50' flat or something.

[cfritschle]

How different are these from the Trainworx quad hoppers?

A lot!

The Trainworx cars are based on a D&RGW prototype, that has lower sides, and very different end sheets.  The Trainworx quad hopper also works well for the MP and CNW paint schemes that Trainworx has offered, but not for the UP paint schemes. 

Union Pacific has been using a mix of the "company" cars (UP, D&RGW, MP, CNW and CTRN (ex BN cars)) for everything from sugar beets to coal (not necessarily unit coal trains, but blocks of coal carrying hoppers for industries such as cement plants and sugar factories) for many years now.  The "Bethlehem" cars (the ones Tangent makes in HO) really stand out as being very different cars within this mix.

I will try to get some photos of the D&RGW prototype cars with the taller UP cars for comparison.

Carter

Edit:  I found a photo of a MP quad hopper that shows the difference in height and end sheets.  MP 589478 is representative of the Trainworx quad hopper.  On its left is a CNW triple hopper like the prototype for the Atlas and/or MTL model, and on its right is a UP quad hopper like the prototype for the Tangent model.

[Denver Road Doug]

Carter, thanks for that info.  I am modeling one of these "dog's breakfast" UP coal trains that goes from Colorado to a cement plant south of Dallas.  Like many modelers are probably doing, I have some of the Trainworx UP cars as stand-ins....good to know that's all I would probably need to replace.  I was really just trying to get the overall look and feel of this train anyway...it's not one that gets the rivets counted too closely.   But good info nonetheless.

[Ike the BN Freak]

Thanks Carter, so much for my "dog's breakfast" coal train, as Doug put it.

[C855B]

IF the "guess" car is the Beth quad - the wheelbase is right, and Tangent produces it - and Craig does it in the UP H-100-16 scheme, I am sooooooooo screwed.

[jpwisc]

I'm guessing it is the new Freight Car America magnetation gondola 

Dave Schauer photo:

[sundowner]

Its a tribute Lionel Alien transport box car.