A Baldwin DT6-6-2000 in N scale

[Lemosteam]

Well, he does have a point.  I'm looking forward to detailed shots of this bad boy in primer so I can make a purchasing decision.  I may need two of those just my east of Chicago and west of Chicago yens.

Make no mistake, so am I.  Certaily no offense to James meant in any way but I have yet to see a Loco or rolling stock shell smooth enough for my personal tastes when used in N scale.  Yes, i understand that voids are being filled, ands I applaud the efforts of many to design what is missing.  Too bad they can't come up with a filler that solidifies when the model is complete, eliminating the "bestine routine" and leaving a smooth surface behind.  The picture of the engineer prior to wax removal is acceptable to me, but I know that once it is removed the striations will appear.

[Jamesn320]

Tried to order shell but received a E Mail that it couldn't print it and a refund was sent.....Anybody else have this problem/    Jim

Hi Yes,

I had several e-mails this morning saying  the orders where rejected.  Firstly I am sorry about this.  After reviewing the issue I have discovered it is due to a an error made by the Shapeways checking staff as the model, as you have seen, is printable.  Consequently this has caused all the DT6-6-20000 with side frames only orders to be rejected for no reason.

I am working with Shapeways as we speak and hopefully they will have the issue resolved soon so you can re order your model.  I will let you know when that is.

Once again please accept my apologizes for this mix up.

-James

[sirenwerks]

Make no mistake, so am I.  Certaily no offense to James meant in any way but I have yet to see a Loco or rolling stock shell smooth enough for my personal tastes when used in N scale.  Yes, i understand that voids are being filled, ands I applaud the efforts of many to design what is missing.  Too bad they can't come up with a filler that solidifies when the model is complete, eliminating the "bestine routine" and leaving a smooth surface behind.  The picture of the engineer prior to wax removal is acceptable to me, but I know that once it is removed the striations will appear.

One can hope the technology will evolve to the point that a reliably smooth surface will be the norm, and the files created by early adapters will still be usable.

[Jamesn320]

Tried to order shell but received a E Mail that it couldn't print it and a refund was sent.....Anybody else have this problem/    Jim

The problem has been sorted out, hopefully, and you can simply reorder using the account credit Shapeways refunded you. 

Sorry for the mix up.  PM if you have any questions.

-James

[jjb62556]

Thanks for looking in to it....MN&S in the works...Jim

[peteski]

Too bad they can't come up with a filler that solidifies when the model is complete, eliminating the "bestine routine" and leaving a smooth surface behind.  The picture of the engineer prior to wax removal is acceptable to me, but I know that once it is removed the striations will appear.

John,
the bestine routing is simply to remove the waxy material that is used in the printing process to support protruding parts of the object.  The wax has nothing to do with the final smoothness of the part.  Shapeways tries to remove most of that wax before shipping the part out, but their removal process leaves a coating of wax on the part. The bestine is just a solvent which works really well to remove the leftover waxy residue.  This leaves a raw FUD surface, exposing the layering effect of the printing process.

I would compare the bestine bath to the degreasing process done to metal car parts before they get painted. If the oils were not removed from the metal paints, the paint wouldn't adhere very well.

I also agree with you that I wish there was some sort non-wax coating which could be applied to the printed parts which would minimize the striations.  HuskerN seems to have decent results smply by applying thicker coat of primer/paint. But his model trucks have smooth bodies without all the surface details present on a locomotive body. On a locomotive the thick paint would hide the surface detail.

[Lemosteam]

Peteski, you missed my point.  Look how smooth the model is pre-soak. If a different material that served the same purpose as the wax, but could be left behind, with no removal, the maybe the situations would go away.

[jjb62556]

Reordered one shell,But it doesn't come with trucks. tried to order trucks, but they are not listed anymore.....Not much good without the trucks!   Jim

[Cajonpassfan]

Same problem here. What gives?

[peteski]

Peteski, you missed my point.  Look how smooth the model is pre-soak. If a different material that served the same purpose as the wax, but could be left behind, with no removal, the maybe the situations would go away.

I get it now. It might have looked smooth but if you looked at it closely, the wax might have also been covering some of the fine details and created a fillet around the doors.

[Jamesn320]

Reordered one shell,But it doesn't come with trucks. tried to order trucks, but they are not listed anymore.....Not much good without the trucks!   Jim

Hi Guys, Shapeways appear to be having a technical issue, I have been in contact with them and hopefully they can get it sorted today.  Currently there are about 20 models missing form my shop and model list!  I will let you know as soon as they get it sorted.  They have relay messed thinks up this time!

-James

[Jamesn320]

Hi Guys, Shapeways appear to be having a technical issue, I have been in contact with them and hopefully they can get it sorted today.  Currently there are about 20 models missing form my shop and model list!  I will let you know as soon as they get it sorted.  They have relay messed thinks up this time!

-James

Looks like we are back in business!  It's been a stressful few days!

-James

[eric220]

Before I pull the trigger, might you be interested in doing the DT624 for us SPF's? It's virtually the same shell with a few extra vents.

[sirenwerks]

Before I pull the trigger, might you be interested in doing the DT624 for us SPF's? It's virtually the same shell with a few extra vents.

And while you're at it the EJ&E EMD re-engined version?  Just a few body mods... 

[Jamesn320]

Before I pull the trigger, might you be interested in doing the DT624 for us SPF's? It's virtually the same shell with a few extra vents.

Hi, in short yes.  You are the second person to as for it so I will make the changes in the next month.  Out of curiosity, I have heard this called a DT6-6-2400, an RT624 and now the DT624.  Which actuality is it?

-James