Killashandra - Irish Nn3

[VonRyan]

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[Chris333]

I think you can recover without static grass. I do wonder why the alcohol ate the glue though?

[VonRyan]

I think you can recover without static grass. I do wonder why the alcohol ate the glue though?

Well the rest of the layout is static grass, so it's pretty much a requirement now.

As for using alcohol to strip the scenery off, I always use 91% alcohol to strip scenery. It always attacks the glue.

[VonRyan]

Ok, as I gear up to give this whole riverbed thing another go, I want suggestions for the water.

I'm looking for something with minimal to zero "creeping" as I'd rather not jynx myself by having to go back and touch up the scenery around the water.
I'm not worried about a flat/level surface. This is a small country creek/river so some faint waves/ripples in the surface would be a good effect.
As y'all know, this isn't that big of a river, so something that I can obtain in a relatively small/inexpensive quantity is best, but as long as it's under $20 I don't much care how much extra I end up with.

[Scottl]

Gloss heavy medium.  It goes only where you want it to.

[davefoxx]

Get some Liquitex "Gloss Gel."  Paint your riverbed, and then paint on the Gloss Gel.  Brush marks will create your water texture, and, since you're painting this on, there is no creep.

What you're seeing in my picture below is about three or four coats of paint over a foam substrate until I got a color for the bottom that I was satisfied with and then one coat of Gloss Gel:



Hope this helps,
DFF

[CNR5529]

Like others have said, I would give the gloss gel medium from liquitex a try. It has worked wonders for members from our local modular group and we were each able to tailor the technique to our own liking: one guy has northern marshlands and calm lakes, while I was able to represent a dredged and well maintained river that has a definitive direction of water flow.
The key is to blend the right colours on your river bed, and form appropriate waves with the right sized brushes. You might only see faint ripples on a small creek or calm lake, while a maritime seaway would require much larger waves. What is nice about the gel medium is you have a bit of time to work, so wave formations can still be moved around if you don't like them. Start with some tests on a small piece of foam to see what you can achieve, and what you like.
The attached image shows how much depth can be created in 2D with a bit of colour and texture, on a small sample block.

[VonRyan]

Get some Liquitex "Gloss Gel."  Paint your riverbed, and then paint on the Gloss Gel.  Brush marks will create your water texture, and, since you're painting this on, there is no creep.

What you're seeing in my picture below is about three or four coats of paint over a foam substrate until I got a color for the bottom that I was satisfied with and then one coat of Gloss Gel:



Hope this helps,
DFF

I'm 75% done with the new coat of dirt for the riverbed, so I'll have to see how things turn out when I paint the gloss over the soil. I expect that I'm going to need to do quite a few layers since I have to build up actual depth.

[Scottl]

You can dilute gloss medium with water a bit to pour it in a limited way if that would help.  Not to the banks, but to build up the pools and riffles.

[wazzou]

Only photo I have, but this is painted, three to four stippling coats of Gloss Medium and coated with 2-3 more of Gloss Mod Podge.  Not even tacky.   

[Ed Kapuscinski]

Also, keep in mind that grass doesn't go right to the bank. Go look at some actual photos of the types of creek you're trying to model.

[VonRyan]

Also, keep in mind that grass doesn't go right to the bank. Go look at some actual photos of the types of creek you're trying to model.

I got just the photo:

https://goo.gl/photos/Zr72qnKki5oiBYmA7

[davefoxx]

Hmm.  Based on that picture, Cody, I suggest a detailed river bottom, then poured Envirotex "water," and then applied static grass up to the water.  In your picture, note that it's not all just a gentle slope into the water- in places, it almost seems that the grass hangs out over the water.

Hope this helps,
DFF

[VonRyan]

Hmm.  Based on that picture, Cody, I suggest a detailed river bottom, then poured Envirotex "water," and then applied static grass up to the water.  In your picture, note that it's not all just a gentle slope into the water- in places, it almost seems that the grass hangs out over the water.

Hope this helps,
DFF

The riverbed is completely soiled and ready for water.
If my river/creek didn't have such high, sloped banks then I would try and completely mimic the photos. But as things are on the layout, I'll decide how to best add new static grass around the river once I have water in the river and everything is dry.
But since I only need at most a 2mm water depth, I'll probably stick with the gloss since that has been confirmed to not creep up the banks.

[Scottl]

Little streams like that can be vegetation right to the bank.  The flooding that strips riparian vegetation and deposits larger rocks in the bed is unusual with that kind of stream.  The photo shows it quite nicely.