Erie Railroad Mahoning division HCD

[Chris333]

I can turn it, but it doesn't really fit the plan that way. This is the entrance to the station.


I think this looks better, plus you get to see more of the interior.

[Scottl]

I've never seen one of these, but it would seem to me that you could do that if you added some signage on the road too?

[Rich_S]

About the hole in the backdrop and lighting and all that. There is a bridge on each side of the backdrop and you can see the far bridge from the near side both ways. The track to staging ducks behind the far bridges abutment and "disappears". There is a good amount of light on the main and well I don't want to call any more attention to the other track. I just stuck a piece of building back there because I had it laying around.

Chris, Do you plan on adding something horizonally between the above bridges and the backdrop? From track level the bridges block the openings very well, but from a higher level like in the above photos the illusion is lost.

[DKS]

IMO this looks really awkward. Can it be relocated across the street?

[Chris333]

Chris, Do you plan on adding something horizonally between the above bridges and the backdrop? From track level the bridges block the openings very well, but from a higher level like in the above photos the illusion is lost.

In those 2 photos you posted I held the camera against the ceiling. At eye level the bridge blocks it, this layout is very high, rail height is 59.25"

[Chris333]

IMO this looks really awkward. Can it be relocated across the street?

That is why I wanted the reverse building: http://www.esmc.com/extra/std/LargePhoto.html?09150/915002
Bryan made them both ways. I think they are sold out so I'm looking to trade.

[sirenwerks]

I can turn it, but it doesn't really fit the plan that way. This is the entrance to the station.

Look at these crossing tower placements:

http://www.indarch.mtu.edu/data/1/2/4-23.jpg

http://www.gingerb.com/CNJ%20Ashley%20Main%20Street%20Crossing%20Tower.jpg

http://www.wvrrmuseum.org/displaysite/html/7/7.jpg

Get rid of the sidewalk around the street tower and drop some poles on the street side of it to protect it from traffic; the sidewalk to the station could run trackside with a small section running to connect to the other side of the sidewalk across the drive; the White Tower tower needs to be street-side, not on the inside of the parking lot.  The layout would work if you had a right-hand version of the restaurant. 

[Philip H]

what's across the street on that side of the tracks?

[OldEastRR]

The layout would work if you had a right-hand version of the restaurant.

I'm pretty sure that's what Chris has been saying for the last 2 pages. I understand him completely and also would accept no substitutions. He has an idea in his head what this scene feels like. It's not just shoving components around to fit what space he has. Now if somebody just has a goddam RH-oriented White Tower would they speak up?
This situation shows the fundamental flaw (in most non-master craftsman layouts) that is all-too-often incorporated in layout building generation after generation: the layout has to fit what the available components are. In the real world, they would have built the diner to fit the space available, not rearrange the landscape to fit a pre-conceived idea of a pre-built structure. All the parts of that property area have different owners (in the real world) who would not take kindly to someone arbitrarily re-arranging their boundaries!
Back when railroaders had to scratchbuild practically anything they needed, this was never a problem. But when kits came in, to thoroughly standardize everything, people only saw it as convenience instead of realizing how stifling it was to scenic possibilities. And train consists, for that matter.
I suppose that could be a thread in itself. Sorry for the ranting detour.

[Chris333]

Sorry I meant to post in the buy/sell/trade forum... 

[sirenwerks]

Now if somebody just has a goddam RH-oriented White Tower would they speak up?

I thought Bryan was working on a RH version.  And a White Castle too.  Or did those get killed by the Shapeways boycott?

[Chris333]

Bryan is able to get another printed, problem solved. 

[davefoxx]

I know you likely want the White Tower on this side (so it's more visible), but it could go on the other side of the DPM building, so it's between the building and the far trackage.  The patrons would get a better view of the tracks rather than a parking lot.   

DFF

[Kisatchie]

...the White Tower... could go on the other side of the DPM building....  The patrons would get a better view of the tracks rather than a parking lot.   

Yeah, that's the main thing 


Hmm... how come no
restaurants feature
termites on their menus...?

[bbussey]

I'm pretty sure that's what Chris has been saying for the last 2 pages. I understand him completely and also would accept no substitutions. He has an idea in his head what this scene feels like. It's not just shoving components around to fit what space he has. Now if somebody just has a goddam RH-oriented White Tower would they speak up?
This situation shows the fundamental flaw (in most non-master craftsman layouts) that is all-too-often incorporated in layout building generation after generation: the layout has to fit what the available components are. In the real world, they would have built the diner to fit the space available, not rearrange the landscape to fit a pre-conceived idea of a pre-built structure. All the parts of that property area have different owners (in the real world) who would not take kindly to someone arbitrarily re-arranging their boundaries!
Back when railroaders had to scratchbuild practically anything they needed, this was never a problem. But when kits came in, to thoroughly standardize everything, people only saw it as convenience instead of realizing how stifling it was to scenic possibilities. And train consists, for that matter.
I suppose that could be a thread in itself. Sorry for the ranting detour.

This is starting to get annoying.

What is your issue?  That the right-handed version isn't available, or that the modeler won't scratchbuild a right-handed version?  For the record, the right-handed version isn't available because the sales didn't justify it.  Regarding scratchbuilding a right-handed version, Chris is more than capable of doing so if it came to that point.  He won't have to however, as I still have the digital model of the right-handed version and it is easy enough to have one rendered for him.  But either way, the problem is easily solved, so I fail to see the purpose of your rant.