AZL November New Releases Part 1

[peteski]

It is amazing to what lengths members of TRW can take a simple discussion.  This is truly a "rocket scientist" level of math and of analysis.  Nice job Gary!

Framing it or not, just fix the damn artwork in the next run and fire the person who decided that all those heralds needed to be shifted towards the rear of the tenders. 

[Sokramiketes]

I like it.   

[ztrack]

Fix the artwork?? Didn't Gary's analysis show the logos are off center on the prototype 10 - 20%... just as AZL produced? And I quote:

"Note that the qualitative conclusions that the logos should be ~10-20% from the midline still hold."

So if we 'fixed' them, then we would make the center which would be incorrect? Man my brain hurts.

I do like Tom's idea to include the analysis it in the box. But I think we would need a bigger box!! LOL! I actually think this would be a great blog for the AZL site.

Gary great job and thanks for putting this to rest. But I promise, the next release's logos are centered.... but should they be? Hmmm...

Rob

[VonRyan]

My brain hurts... too much math, too soon.

[peteski]

Fix the artwork?? Didn't Gary's analysis show the logos are off center on the prototype 10 - 20%... just as AZL produced? And I quote:

"Note that the qualitative conclusions that the logos should be ~10-20% from the midline still hold."

So if we 'fixed' them, then we would make the center which would be incorrect? Man my brain hurts.

I do like Tom's idea to include the analysis it in the box. But I think we would need a bigger box!! LOL! I actually think this would be a great blog for the AZL site.

Gary great job and thanks for putting this to rest. But I promise, the next release's logos are centered.... but should they be? Hmmm...

Rob

Well, Gary's analysis (in his own opinion) is also not 100% accurate.  How about "closer to the center then they are on the current release"?   

[wcfn100]

I don't want you to fix them.

I like doing this.

Jason

[ztrack]

Jason LOL!!! This has been fun…

I personally think we ALL are a little off center.

Rob

[peteski]

Jason LOL!!! This has been fun…

I personally think we ALL are a little off center.

Rob

That is a big +1 on that!

[Sokramiketes]

Fix the artwork?? Didn't Gary's analysis show the logos are off center on the prototype 10 - 20%... just as AZL produced? And I quote:

"Note that the qualitative conclusions that the logos should be ~10-20% from the midline still hold."

So if we 'fixed' them, then we would make the center which would be incorrect? Man my brain hurts.

I do like Tom's idea to include the analysis it in the box. But I think we would need a bigger box!! LOL! I actually think this would be a great blog for the AZL site.

Gary great job and thanks for putting this to rest. But I promise, the next release's logos are centered.... but should they be? Hmmm...

Rob

No, he concluded that the prototype photo was off center, but the model was even more off center.

You're still not off the hook and these still haven't been comparisons to the actual prototypes you're producing. 

All we've seen proved so far is that two steam engines have had the logo offset from center a minimal distance.

[Sokramiketes]

So this great diagram was posted in the Trainboard E-8 thread (http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?155619-Märklin-news!!-E8-units!&p=964393#post964393), I thought it would wrap up some of this conversation.  The Q was at least intending their heralds to be centered...

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/image/steam_lettering.jpg