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kalbert

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Help Identifying a Box Car
« on: October 24, 2013, 07:06:50 PM »
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I'm pretty fluent in N scale covered hoppers, but not so much in box cars. Looking for a little help finding a good starting point for making up a couple of these. And if anybody's got a suggestion for making the funky italic reporting marks too...

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1501421

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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 02:13:47 AM »
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Beats me.  I've never seen ends like that before.  As for the initials, you MIGHT find a similar font in a graphics or word-processing program, but I don't know of any decals.
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 03:08:35 AM »
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Yeah, those ends are strange.

The "DME" font is Optima Extra Black, obliqued and stretched. The numbers appear to be Optima Black, with a little bit of oblique. Somebody in a lettering shop somewhere was having fun with the vinyl cutter software. :|
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 08:48:54 AM »
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Looking for a little help finding a good starting point for making up a couple of these. And if anybody's got a suggestion for making the funky italic reporting marks too...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1501421

I did some googling around and I couldn't come up with much except that this series may have been built by Pacific Car & Foundry, originally for SP, and that's the only car in the 57xx series to have that paticular end.

Maybe head on over to the Modern Freight Cars List [MFCL] on yahoo groups and see what they can tell you?
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2013, 09:01:44 AM »
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The Exactrail PC&F beer car looks like it's in the same ballpark. Wrong ends, though. Oh yeah, and not yet available in N scale.

Unfortunately, the Red Caboose car appears to be a bit too long -



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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2013, 11:18:57 AM »
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The PC&F beer car is not even close actually. I think DM&E does have some of those in a similar number range, but this car is not one of them.

Looks to me like a Pullman-Standard 60' car; the ends are obviously rebuilt at some point in the car's history. It most likely used to look identical to the car it's coupled to at left. The door design definitely looks like this is also an insulated car. (Recessed bit for the door latching bars indicating the thickness of the door.)

I'm less familiar with N scale models than HO, but I don't think a model of this exact car is available in either scale.

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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2013, 12:06:36 PM »
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That number range is a real mixed bag...  could this be a wreck rebuild or something?

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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 12:29:02 PM »
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I was thinking wreck rebuild based on the ends and the fact that the white streaks/rivet lines on the bottom of the ribs all go up a uniform 2.5 feet or so and stop.  This suggests to me that new metal was applied above.
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 12:37:47 PM »
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This must be the non-kitbashed version -

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3443831

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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 12:38:44 PM »
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Looks like it.
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2013, 03:04:43 PM »
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Yup, it's definitely a box car.
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2013, 04:03:55 PM »
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Scroll down - another shot of this car's other end....???  Or pre-rebuild???


http://thundertrain.org/trains-051613.html

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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2013, 06:59:03 PM »
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Holy smokes I didn't even notice the end... I saw 5736 and thought I ought to have one, but jeez man that series of cars is as big of crap shoot grab bag of party favors as any other in the DME fleet... True to their Cheap and Nothing Wasted roots I guess. That Red Caboose unit looks like it might make a decent stand in for some of them, maybe with a few feet whacked off.

I'll check out those fonts and see. Too bad the reporting marks aren't black so I could just print them at home!

Edit... 5737 seems to look alot like the Red Caboose beer car with a 10' door. That might be the route to go.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2186695
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2013, 07:25:26 PM »
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A Google search shows DME to be Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern RR.
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Re: Help Identifying a Box Car
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2013, 10:06:19 PM »
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Very much a PS 60' car... similar to the BI-90 classes PS built for UP (albeit, rebuilt more than once)