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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1185 on: March 08, 2017, 10:43:49 AM »
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rather then sand down the landforms of your foamcore to get to a set height for the street tracking why not just restart the whole thing s make sure the track is laid so its more even?

I have given that approach some thought, but I'd rather keep the track level (for performance sake) than deal with the terrain.

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1186 on: March 08, 2017, 11:50:54 AM »
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I dont think that sanding foamcore will work.  once you get through the cardboard shell you will turn the foam to dust.  Why not find a material that is the same thickness as the railhead height from you base?

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1187 on: March 08, 2017, 12:52:01 PM »
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I dont think that sanding foamcore will work.  once you get through the cardboard shell you will turn the foam to dust.  Why not find a material that is the same thickness as the railhead height from you base?


I've got to agree here.  The shell or backing is a paper of some sort and the soft candy middle is not like regular foam.
If it were me, I would use Artist's Mat Board used for matting in picture frames. 
It's probably the right thickness based on my experience, is available in different color and textures, is easy to cut and is pretty cheap.
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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1188 on: March 08, 2017, 01:07:48 PM »
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I dont think that sanding foamcore will work.  once you get through the cardboard shell you will turn the foam to dust.  Why not find a material that is the same thickness as the railhead height from you base?

Well, we'll just have to see. It's all glued down now! I'll also likely be covering it with lightweight sparkle as well, so it'll be sealed up.

Fingers crossed, and thanks for the warnings.

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1189 on: March 08, 2017, 01:25:25 PM »
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Pfttt.  So much for proof of concept.   ;)
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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1190 on: March 08, 2017, 01:39:56 PM »
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Pfttt.  So much for proof of concept.   ;)

As I said in the update... "Godzilla like progress".

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1191 on: March 08, 2017, 01:45:44 PM »
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Well, we'll just have to see. It's all glued down now! I'll also likely be covering it with lightweight sparkle as well, so it'll be sealed up.

Glitter, or sequins?

Good luck with the foamcore sanding. As soon as I processed it was foamcore and not XPS foam I knew you were sorta in trouble. Sanding paper laminates usually shreds the paper and makes a mess, and John's right in that once you break through the paper you will hit bottom quickly. The foam is very low density and will surprise you.
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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1192 on: March 09, 2017, 01:22:07 AM »
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Glitter, or sequins?

Good luck with the foamcore sanding. As soon as I processed it was foamcore and not XPS foam I knew you were sorta in trouble. Sanding paper laminates usually shreds the paper and makes a mess, and John's right in that once you break through the paper you will hit bottom quickly. The foam is very low density and will surprise you.

Be sure to take pics of the aftermath, tho. Good lessons for anyone else who wants to go that route. We learn from our mistakes.....

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1193 on: March 09, 2017, 10:16:04 AM »
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You have not finished the scene yet and they're all predicting doom! :ashat:

I had the same thought as the others, though. I guess you'll really have to make this work so all of us naysayers have to eat crow...

If this doesn't work out I say try out DAS clay(and maybe the pavement rollers from RailNScale)...It's pretty fun to work with...It comes in black and white so you can mix them to get a grey..Water makes it mix better, and keeps the working time extended..

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1194 on: March 09, 2017, 12:09:28 PM »
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80 pages about EdK and Conrail. Who woulda thought either was possible?  :D
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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1195 on: March 09, 2017, 04:59:33 PM »
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Ok, so today I performed a test by sanding a section of the foamcore.

It works fine. Yes, there's now exposed foam, but that's what I was going for. It'll be covered by layers of other stuff so I'm not worried about it at all now.

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1196 on: March 09, 2017, 09:34:12 PM »
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Great. If you can do that, I can tip a tree!

Wait! Pics or it didn't happen!

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1197 on: March 10, 2017, 01:30:44 AM »
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Balls...wish I'd been following this a little closer. I have a bunch of Tomix slab track that is a perfect match for the height of foamcore. Instant street running with having to fuss with sanding and filling...
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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1198 on: March 10, 2017, 10:28:59 AM »
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Great. If you can do that, I can tip a tree!

Wait! Pics or it didn't happen!

Fair enough!

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Re: Conrail Windsor St Yard (York PA) Engineering Report
« Reply #1199 on: March 10, 2017, 10:41:04 AM »
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Color me surprised, but good deal. I surely have enough (...OMG...) foamcore laying about, so I'll try it again. Was this by hand, or were power tools involved?
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