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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2013, 05:15:24 PM »
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I'm kind of hoping to see an actual model of this product.

Anybody have one yet?
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2013, 09:10:12 PM »
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FYI  I was showing off my shell at the local Ntrak club and one of the guys happened to have an old Atlas/Kato RS11.  This will work for a drive!  The distance between truck centers is just a little short - I think a scale 6" or 9" - but its close.  The weight that goes in the battery boxes will have to be filed down, but there are no other hindrances.  Plus, with TCS' CN series decoders, it really isn't an issue to install DCC. 

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2013, 08:49:30 AM »
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Now we need a six axle drive solution.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2013, 11:12:56 AM »
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Now we need a six axle drive solution.

For years Atlas marketed a foobalicious RSD12 using the RS11 mech and RSD trucks. Such a thing might be able to be done at home if the parts are all available.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2013, 12:24:48 PM »
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Bryan,
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2013, 10:02:50 PM »
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For years Atlas marketed a foobalicious RSD12 using the RS11 mech and RSD trucks. Such a thing might be able to be done at home if the parts are all available.

I was thinking about looking at some of the Japanese and German loco drives to see if anything has the 44 1/2 foot truck centers needed for the AS616.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2013, 11:21:40 PM »
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I was thinking about looking at some of the Japanese and German loco drives to see if anything has the 44 1/2 foot truck centers needed for the AS616.
Might be able to put the RSD12 trucks under the RS1 chassis..

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2013, 08:30:50 AM »
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I remember reading long ago on another forum that the RSD4/5 is real close, but I have no personal confirmation of that.
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2013, 12:27:33 AM »
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2013, 05:10:05 AM »
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"I was thinking about looking at some of the Japanese and German loco drives to see if anything has the 44 1/2 foot truck centers needed for the AS616."

Don't know where you got your info but the truck centers for a AS616 is 32' 3".  It may be that you are mistaking the wheel base for the truck centers.

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2013, 08:38:38 AM »
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There is a tremendous amount of dimensional information on this website on not just the Baldwin locomotives, but locomotives from all builders.

http://www.thedieselshop.us/DataBLWIndex.HTML

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2013, 06:21:07 PM »
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Piperguy that shell looks marvelous!

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2013, 07:30:07 AM »
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Holy crap
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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2013, 09:19:24 AM »
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Contact me via the address on the randgust.com website if you want six-axle Commonwealth sideframes.

I still have the molds but I only make parts on request.  I'll start making resin parts again about in mid-October when the furnace dries things out.

The spacing on the axles is tweaked to match the uneven axle spacing on the Atlas C630/C624 trucks.   Sand them flush and mount these on.   

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Re: Baldwin DRS 4-4-1500/AS16
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2013, 02:00:18 PM »
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"I was thinking about looking at some of the Japanese and German loco drives to see if anything has the 44 1/2 foot truck centers needed for the AS616."

Don't know where you got your info but the truck centers for a AS616 is 32' 3".  It may be that you are mistaking the wheel base for the truck centers.

You're absolutely right, I did make that mistake.  Good thing you pointed it out to me before I got into that search.  Unluckily, another search is taking all my search time.  But what is the difference between the terms "Center Bolster" and "Distance Between Truck Centers"?  The second, IMO, makes more sense for the dim I was seeking out. 

And in looking at the dims I didn't look at before, namely the Center Front/Rear Truck to Front/Rear Pilot, I'm even more confused.  Where exactly is the "Center" of a truck?  I wasn't certain if the bolster on the AS616 sat over the center of the truck or the center axle, but this throws a certain amount of doubt into my terminology understanding.

And yes, PiperguyUMD, sweet!  Thanks for the pic of a finished model.
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